Brion, this is a great effort and your thinking ties into a broader initiative loosely called Wikipedia menu.

Brandon and Heather will start looking at Wikipedia menu fairly soon, so I am copying them specifically.

Steven's point about the TOC is a good one to test. But a Wikipedia menu could make a sliding TOC more usable by giving it more context. Or maybe the menu slides on from one side and the TOC from the other. Or possibly we don't want a TOC in that form.

Action bar on Android and some expanded toolbar on iOS make great sense and there is plenty to put in there!


On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Brion Vibber <> wrote:
wwops, sent to steven only by mistake. copied to the list:

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Steven Walling <> wrote:
I dislike the lighter color of the action toolbar though on mobile (the delineation between content and navigation is cleaner in the current Android app)

We can match with the standard darker style instead if we prefer it.

and the fact that it makes the top toolbar more cluttered. Mostly all I want to do on mobile is search and read, and I think people are used to just scrolling down for more content, not using a TOC dropdown.

I think I'm agreeing that a labeled TOC dropdown is a little cluttery, though something would be nice; scrolling through vvvveeeerrrryyyy long articles can be a chore, especially if you're in the middle and aren't sure whether to scroll up or down. :)

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