There is another alternative that might be worth getting opinions on—Juliusz and I both thought it seemed a bit complicated, but it would have some additional benefits, so here goes.

Firstly, we'd add cucumber tags to indicate the additional role dependencies of a given feature (or individual scenario). For instance, editor_ve.feature would include a `@visualeditor` tag and notification.feature would include an `@echo` tag.  Secondly, we'd restrict the default behavior of cucumber (via puppet) to run only those tests that are tagged with any of the currently enabled roles.

The major upside to this approach would be that only those tests suited to the current development environment get run—ostensibly these are the only tests the developer would care to run—translating to far fewer false negatives and more confidence (and utility) in the test suite. With the dual-roles approach, it's highly likely that developers will continue to run into these soft-dependency issues. And, as already stated, a single-role approach is less flexible and will bloat the provision and git-update times.

The biggest downside to this approach is pretty obvious, I think: It would require the author of the test to know and include any role dependencies in the list of tags. Is this a reasonable expectation of developers and/or project managers (who might one day be writing features)? Another possible downside is that altering cucumber's default behavior might confuse people as to why some tests are being skipped.


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Arthur Richards <arichards@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I agree  with Max - or alternatively (or in addition) setting up a mobilefrontend-production role to set things up as close as possible to prod.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Max Semenik <msemenik@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I personally would prefer 2, because buncing everything into one role would be too inflexible. I don't see much maintenance overhead if compared with 1.


On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Juliusz Gonera <jgonera@wikimedia.org> wrote:
I talked to Dan Duvall today and he said that many mobile browser
tests fail on default vagrant instance because other extensions that
are not hard dependencies of MF are not activated by default when
activating the mobilefrontend role (extensions such as Echo, GeoData,
VisualEditor). There are two things we can do:

1. Make other extensions that mobile uses dependencies of
mobilefrontend role in vagrant
2. Create a separate role, e.g. mobilefrontend-browsertests, that will
list mobilefrontend and all those extensions as its dependencies

I was wondering if there is anyone who uses vagrant and would like to
have MF enabled, but not all the other extensions. If not, 1. seems
like a simpler solution.

Thoughts?

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