August 2014 - Mobile-l - lists.wikimedia.org

opensearch vs. prefixsearch
by Dmitry Brant 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

I was just looking at the Mobile Web search functionality, and I noticed that the drop-down list of search results in Mobile Web is different from the list in our native apps for the same search term. It looks like Mobile Web uses prefixsearch, whereas the apps are using opensearch. I'm curious what was the rationale for using a different API in the apps? (Wouldn't we want the search results to be consistent between the Apps and Mobile Web?) -Dmitry

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Latest Android test build
by Dmitry Brant 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Hi all, Here is a build that contains the latest (final?) iteration of the page issues / disambiguation verbiage, as well as the latest full-text search design! https://releases.wikimedia.org/mobile/android/wikipedia/scratch/wikipedia-2… -Dmitry

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[Mobile web] Notes from user testing 1st mobile Wikidata game prototype at Wikimania
by Maryana Pinchuk 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

During Wikimania, me + Kaldari + Sherah did some in-person testing of a prototype mobile Wikidata game that Sherah built during the hackathon.[1] I've finally transcribed the notes from the testing sessions & thought it might be useful/interesting for folks to read through the summary and raw notes: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design/Research/Guerilla_testing_Wikigrok. The tl;dr is that we've definitely got some iterating to do on the UX and copy to make this a better, more understandable, less intimidating experience for less experienced/non-Wikipedian users – but it was great to get that feedback early on so we can act on it before writing any of the live code :) Lemme know if you have any questions – and Kaldari + Sherah, feel free to add anything you remember from the testing :) 1. Check it out for yourself on a phone or iOS emulator: http://wikigrok -proto.meteor.com/ -- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] [Wikitech-l] need for an app?
by svetlana 17 Aug '14

17 Aug '14

On Sun, 17 Aug 2014, at 10:54, Daniel Friesen wrote: > On 2014-08-16, 4:56 PM, Yuvi Panda wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:40 AM, svetlana <svetlana(a)fastmail.com.au> wrote: > >> Why not use in-browser offline storage? > >> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/features/storage > > One of my favorite articles: > > http://alistapart.com/article/application-cache-is-a-douchebag > > On 2014-08-16, 5:15 PM, svetlana wrote: > > ... > > That is OK, you and Yuvi Panda highlighted some important points. > > Thanks to both - I'll follow-up if I find solution to the application cache issues raised in the blog post linked earlier. > > > > svetlana > > Issues? The article is one of my favourites too, if you read through the > whole thing it describes a technique of combining appcache, > localStorage, and an iframe to make it possible for a site like > Wikipedia to be made to work offline. And localStorage could even be > substituted for IndexedDB (with a polyfill for WebSQL only browsers). > > ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/] > Could someone please tell me why I'm getting two different threads with this subject in my inbox? I have trouble following. Thought that your point is that offline storage in browser is hard, and that's /why/ mobile apps exist. It's really hard to discuss this by email. svetlana

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Fwd: user testing VE on mobile
by Kaity Hammerstein 16 Aug '14

16 Aug '14

We did another round of guerrilla testing for VE on mobile today. Overall it was much improved from the last tests! Especially these changes: X icon to back icon, arrow icon to word "next", save page updates, and the switch between edit modes. Here are those findings: - Used back button and it did what they expected - Hesitated when asked to save but all were able to find "Next" button - Filled out the save screen appropriately, although 1 person said it looked like an error screen at first - When asked to switch to wikitext, tapped gear icon almost immediately, but several people still struggled with "edit" and "edit source" language. Everyone also struggled with the pop-up asking them to save before switching. But the link and reference context bars really failed the user tests. :( Most did not notice that the icon in the toolbar was highlighted. Nobody even noticed the context bars, and didn't know what they meant when I pointed to them. More notes https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Design/Research/VE_on_mobile#July_30.2C_2014… I would suggest we try adding blue links that say "edit link" and "edit citation" in those context bars, to show a user what they'll be doing specifically. The taller height will also make the bar more noticeable. Then we can test again! Thanks, Kaity

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New Wikipedia Android app production release
by Bernd Sitzmann 15 Aug '14

15 Aug '14

Today's update to the Wikipedia app[1] includes the following changes: Add Today menu Dark theme: appearance of images, background on editing screens, remove inline colors from within tables References with page internal links work now Fix crash when clicking on link in references panel Show number of matches when finding in page (4.1+) Remove flashing of empty message in saved pages/history screens during loading Language variants for Chinese It's basically the same as the beta we pushed on Monday minus the experimental features. It may take an hour or two before it is visible for everybody. A link to the apk is also available[2]. Enjoy! Bernd [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia [2]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mobile/Release_history#Wikipedia

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WG: AW: Article history and categories
by Florian Schmidt 15 Aug '14

15 Aug '14

Forgot mobile-l, so just forwarding. Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Forwarded message ----- Von: "Florian Schmidt" <florian.schmidt.welzow(a)t-online.de> An: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> Betreff: AW: [WikimediaMobile] Article history and categories Datum: Do., Aug. 14, 2014 13:17 Hello, in Mobile Web there is a feature in alpha mode (settings->beta->settings>experimental) to show categories of a page as a seperate, last expandable section. I don't know when this goes to beta/stable. Kind regards Florian Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> An: <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] Article history and categories Datum: Do., Aug. 14, 2014 08:28 Any chance of including these links in the Android mobile app and in mobile web? Categories are the subject of a current IEG research project and their omission from mobile might be significant. Article history can be accessed in mobile web through the strapline, but not at all in the mobile Android app. Thanks, Pine

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Browser tests - don't panic
by Juliusz Gonera 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

Dan Duvall and I worked on his patch refactoring MobileFrontend browser tests yesterday [1]. We got over half of the tests working on mediawiki-vagrant, but we might have caused some breakage on betalabs/jenkins. The last two builds have lots of failures (over 30), but that doesn't mean that the features themselves are broken. We'll figure it out soon. In general the changes we made were necessary and hopefully will help get everyone running browser tests on their dev instances in the near future. Another nice thing added by Dan is the possiblity of specifying browser tests dependency on other extensions as seen in [2]. Those browser tests will not run (will be skipped) if an extension is not enabled. Instead developers will see a warning saying which extension needs to be enabled to run them. Dan, thanks for all this work. [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/147115/ [2] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/152993/ -- Juliusz

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Article history and categories
by Pine W 14 Aug '14

14 Aug '14

Any chance of including these links in the Android mobile app and in mobile web? Categories are the subject of a current IEG research project and their omission from mobile might be significant. Article history can be accessed in mobile web through the strapline, but not at all in the mobile Android app. Thanks, Pine

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ToC in Android app
by Dmitry Brant 13 Aug '14

13 Aug '14

True story: My girlfriend was using the Android app yesterday on her device, and she told me, "It would be great if you had an option to jump to specific sections... It's difficult to scroll all the way down to the section I'm looking for!" :)

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Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games
by Monte Hurd 13 Aug '14

13 Aug '14

I hate to dissent, but I don't think a separate app is the way to go at this time for a few reasons. First, many of the types of contributions to wikidata that we've talked about game-ifying are article specific. ie, "have user read some portion of an article and summarize what it's about in 5 words or less", etc. This would mean we'd need search and browse etc, and my gut tells me a variety of other context and interactions the existing app provides would need to be recreated. If the existing app could launch the game app, that could be one way to provide context, but from a UX perspective, we would otherwise be limiting ourselves to tasks that didn't require heavy back-and-forth comparisons and the transition between apps, at least on iOS, is super annoying (the way Facebook swaps out to Messenger annoys the hell out of me). I also think, at this time, our limited resources are better spent carefully crafting one or two gamed interactions which we can carefully insert into the existing app rather than having to solve the inevitable wider set of challenges a new app would present. The existing app also has a flood of users based on name recognition alone. Although I suppose we could call it "Wikipedia Games"... tl:dr, game-ify yes, other app no/not now > On Aug 9, 2014, at 17:37, mobile-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > > Send Mobile-l mailing list submissions to > mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mobile-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mobile-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mobile-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Tomasz Finc) > 2. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games > (May Tee-Galloway) > 3. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Dmitry Brant) > 4. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Moiz Syed) > 5. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Yuvi Panda) > 6. Re: Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games (Bernd Sitzmann) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 13:35:41 +0100 > From: Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> > To: mobile-l <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAMxhqbdO_ARWufx-LTSruXaDAsjmeOvcrc3MeZdq7dsQiX1acA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at > Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted > to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been > many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. > > I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest > in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick > contributions. > > The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell > that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, > curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of > dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the > interest in this. > > I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of > experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would > frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute > in ways that doesn't exist yet. > > Do let know > > --tomasz > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 15:11:04 +0100 > From: May Tee-Galloway <mgalloway(a)wikimedia.org> > To: Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> > Cc: mobile-l <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [WikimediaMobile] Creating a shell app to house Wikidata > games > Message-ID: > <CAN4BDz4AE=+XCM=6+OY6_1h5sDLbjuzg7d5U72Hjn11cXY1Fug(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > You got a designer here! > > >> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 1:35 PM, Tomasz Finc <tfinc(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >> It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at >> Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted >> to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been >> many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. >> >> I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest >> in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick >> contributions. >> >> The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell >> that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, >> curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of >> dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the >> interest in this. >> >> I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of >> experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would >> frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute >> in ways that doesn't exist yet. >> >> Do let know >> >> --tomasz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mobile-l mailing list >> Mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l >

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Your account has been limited until we hear from you PP-503-472-206
by mobile-l＠lists.wikimedia.org 11 Aug '14

11 Aug '14

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Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania 2014
by Pine W 09 Aug '14

09 Aug '14

Hi all, I would like to encourage those of us who may have missed Lila's keynote speech at Wikimania to listen to it. [1] In her speech, Lila takes a long view of Wikimedia's history and future. She talks about incremental and disruptive changes that are happening socially and technologically such as the shift toward mobile and wearable computing, and the use of technology in the developing world. She also talks about modes of contribution, and changes inside the Wikimedia projects that would encourage more people to participate actively. Thanks very much, Lila. I look forward to seeing how the trends and opportunities that you describe are addressed in our new strategic plan. Pine [1] http://new.livestream.com/wikimania/saturday2014

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Creating a shell app to house Wikidata games
by Tomasz Finc 09 Aug '14

09 Aug '14

It's been amazing to see the interest in WikiData games here at Wikimania and i've been approached by a number of people who've wanted to create them. From label creation to data validation there have been many ideas of how to engage users in new and creative ways. I'm curious to hear from users on this list and beyond about interest in a WikiData games app that would facilitate simple and quick contributions. The idea would be that the app would act as a simple frontend shell that would allow anyone to interact with WikiData games to create, curate, and validate content. Putting aside the difficulties of dynamic custom user content with the app I'm curious about the interest in this. I know that that mobile web team is already planning a handful of experiments with this and I'm eager to see if some of you would frequent an app that collected these and empowered users to contribute in ways that doesn't exist yet. Do let know --tomasz

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Main page - good practices, future plans
by Amir E. Aharoni 08 Aug '14

08 Aug '14

Hi, The Hebrew Wikipedia community is questioning the current design of the Mobile main page, and this raises some questions about the mobile main page design for all languages. I don't have a strong opinion myself, but the current tendency is to show all the boxes rather than just a few, as it is now. This begs the question - is it really good for mobile readers? For example, is the mobile main page very popular at all, or is there much more traffic to the articles? Is there a difference between mobile main page traffic in the app and in the mobile web? Are there any known good practices for mobile main page design? Finally, what is the plan for the future development of the main page? The current software still uses HTML ids like "mp-tfa"; is there a plan to change it? Thanks! -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Documentation of Hooks in MobileFrontend
by Florian Schmidt 07 Aug '14

07 Aug '14

Hello all together, is there a documentation of Hooks implemented in MobileFrontend (i haven't found any)? Like the Hook documentation of Core [1]. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Hooks#Alphabetical_list_of_hooks Kind regards, Florian

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Dependencies of MobileFrontend vagrant role
by Juliusz Gonera 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

I talked to Dan Duvall today and he said that many mobile browser tests fail on default vagrant instance because other extensions that are not hard dependencies of MF are not activated by default when activating the mobilefrontend role (extensions such as Echo, GeoData, VisualEditor). There are two things we can do: 1. Make other extensions that mobile uses dependencies of mobilefrontend role in vagrant 2. Create a separate role, e.g. mobilefrontend-browsertests, that will list mobilefrontend and all those extensions as its dependencies I was wondering if there is anyone who uses vagrant and would like to have MF enabled, but not all the other extensions. If not, 1. seems like a simpler solution. Thoughts? -- Juliusz

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Wikipedia IOS App - Accessibility Concerns in Voiceover Mode
by Tomasz Finc 06 Aug '14

06 Aug '14

Shifting to mobile-l@ --tomasz On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:00 AM, Vibha Bamba <vbamba(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > In voiceover mode swiping up, doesn't re-invoke nav controls. > > This prohibits navigation. Currently, the following elements are hard to get > to > > -search ( because its hard to scroll back to top) > > -toc > > -home menu > saved articles > > -previous and next articles. > > -save action > > Twitter carries a special mode when voiceover is switched on. On Google Maps > & Twitter - the top areas for controls have enlarged target sizes and the > content area is much smaller. > > Brion/ Monte - one quick question - Is there a way we can persist navigation > in voiceover mode? > > ---- > > Vibha Bamba > Senior Designer | WMF Design > > > > > >

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Fw: Segue Dados em anexo. (86185)
by mobile-l＠lists.wikimedia.org 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

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FYI: Android Wear app
by Max Semenik 05 Aug '14

05 Aug '14

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/08/04/new-app-attopedia-is-a-surprisingly… -- Best regards, Max Semenik ([[User:MaxSem]])

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New Android beta release
by Bernd Sitzmann 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Today's update to the Wikipedia Beta App[1] includes the following changes: Add Today menu Dark theme: appearance of images, background on editing screens, remove inline colors from within tables References with page internal links work now Fix crash when clicking on link in references panel Show number of matches when finding in page (4.1+) Remove flashing of empty message in saved pages/history screens during loading Language variants for Chinese Experimental: Show flag button for "Page issues" Show "Similar titles" link to go to disambiguation page It may take an hour or two before it is visible for everybody. Please report any bugs you encounter, so we can fix them before we push the bits to the production app. Enjoy! Bernd [1]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta

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Accessibility issues on iOS
by Brion Vibber 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

We've gotten a couple of reports of accessibility issues with the iOS app, especially with buttons not being read aloud in VoiceOver mode. I've filed https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69120 so we don't forget to research exactly how to fix that up -- there should be accessibility role and label fields we can set on the labels and buttons to let VoiceOver pick them up correctly, so that part should be an easy fix once we get in there. We may also want to make slight adjustments to content HTML to reduce redundant link titles. -- brion

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Wikipedia iOS 4.0.1 bugfix release pushing to App Store
by Brion Vibber 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

Lots of bugfixes and some more UI translations; no major new features introduced (but we did add a 'Today' link in the W menu which brings you back to the main page for the current language). This should help address the issues with crashing on startup, though we need to do further investigation on what might be causing those. There are still known problems on some old iOS 6 devices which we're continuing to poke at. -- brion

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Re: [WikimediaMobile] Unable to edit in Mobile
by Florian Schmidt 04 Aug '14

04 Aug '14

On Desktop you don't have an edit button for the section, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AWikipedia_Signpost%2… The content of the section in mobile is included with a template if i see this right, isn't it? To change this content you must edit the template target. Kind regards Florian Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> An: <florian.schmidt.welzow(a)t-online.de> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] Unable to edit in Mobile Datum: So., Aug. 3, 2014 09:04 Hi, then in this case the problem is that on mobile web there is only one pencil icon on this page when there should be pencils for multiple sections. Should this go on Bugzilla? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-07-30/Wik… Pine Hello! To the mobile web problem: do you mean, that it only lpads one section instead of the entire article? If yes: thats normal and expected. On mobile you can edit only a section, not the entire article. Kind regards, Florian Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> An: <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] Unable to edit in Mobile Datum: Sa., Aug. 2, 2014 09:34 I get a network error when I try to edit on the Android app, and on moble web only a small section loads in the edit window of the Signpost article I want to edit, but I can read articles ok. Did something break for mobile editing? Thanks, Pine

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WG: AW: Unable to edit in Mobile
by Florian Schmidt 02 Aug '14

02 Aug '14

Damn, forgot mobile-l :) Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Forwarded message ----- Von: "Florian Schmidt" <florian.schmidt.welzow(a)t-online.de> An: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> Betreff: AW: [WikimediaMobile] Unable to edit in Mobile Datum: Sa., Aug. 2, 2014 10:57 Hello! To the mobile web problem: do you mean, that it only lpads one section instead of the entire article? If yes: thats normal and expected. On mobile you can edit only a section, not the entire article. Kind regards, Florian Gesendet mit meinem HTC ----- Reply message ----- Von: "Pine W" <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> An: <mobile-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Betreff: [WikimediaMobile] Unable to edit in Mobile Datum: Sa., Aug. 2, 2014 09:34 I get a network error when I try to edit on the Android app, and on moble web only a small section loads in the edit window of the Signpost article I want to edit, but I can read articles ok. Did something break for mobile editing? Thanks, Pine

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