Currently https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt bans indexing the public archives of this list (at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ )
Appearently this happened back in 2005 due to some people complaining about their posts on some lists (not neccesarily this one) being at the top of google.
I think its kind of rediculous the tech support list for mediawiki not indexable by google*. The first step for anyone trying to solve their problem should be to google it but yet we don't let google show results from this list.
Its my understanding that if a list want to be indexed by google, that the config would be changed for lists that request it.
Thus, I would like to formerly propose that mediawiki-l be allowed to be indexed by google et al.
Thoughts? Objections?
-- Brian
Seems like it would assist in eliminating duplicate requests for assistance. I was actually unaware that this list was not indexed. Thanks>
On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 12:51 PM, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Currently https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt bans indexing the public archives of this list (at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ )
Appearently this happened back in 2005 due to some people complaining about their posts on some lists (not neccesarily this one) being at the top of google.
I think its kind of rediculous the tech support list for mediawiki not indexable by google*. The first step for anyone trying to solve their problem should be to google it but yet we don't let google show results from this list.
Its my understanding that if a list want to be indexed by google, that the config would be changed for lists that request it.
Thus, I would like to formerly propose that mediawiki-l be allowed to be indexed by google et al.
Thoughts? Objections?
-- Brian
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For this list, it's an obviously good idea. It's already search engine indexed offsite, there's no good reason not to have our own archive do the same.
- d.
On 28 April 2018 at 18:51, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Currently https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt bans indexing the public archives of this list (at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ )
Appearently this happened back in 2005 due to some people complaining about their posts on some lists (not neccesarily this one) being at the top of google.
I think its kind of rediculous the tech support list for mediawiki not indexable by google*. The first step for anyone trying to solve their problem should be to google it but yet we don't let google show results from this list.
Its my understanding that if a list want to be indexed by google, that the config would be changed for lists that request it.
Thus, I would like to formerly propose that mediawiki-l be allowed to be indexed by google et al.
Thoughts? Objections?
-- Brian
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IIRC, at some point in the past people objected to bots harvesting their email addresses from a publicly indexed version.
Not saying that’s a good reason, but that’s my recollection.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 29, 2018, at 9:11 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
For this list, it's an obviously good idea. It's already search engine indexed offsite, there's no good reason not to have our own archive do the same.
- d.
On 28 April 2018 at 18:51, Brian Wolff bawolff@gmail.com wrote:
Currently https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt bans indexing the public archives of this list (at https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ )
Appearently this happened back in 2005 due to some people complaining about their posts on some lists (not neccesarily this one) being at the top of google.
I think its kind of rediculous the tech support list for mediawiki not indexable by google*. The first step for anyone trying to solve their problem should be to google it but yet we don't let google show results from this list.
Its my understanding that if a list want to be indexed by google, that the config would be changed for lists that request it.
Thus, I would like to formerly propose that mediawiki-l be allowed to be indexed by google et al.
Thoughts? Objections?
-- Brian
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There are ways to combat bots, both on-list with configuration like *obscure_addresses*, and through the process of archiving. [1]
Decent email providers like GMail do a great job of filtering spam for the end user. Others like Comcast or Verizon do not.
There are many ways that the end user can help themselves. For example, use a list-specific address through plus-addressing or sub-domain addressing. [2]
[1] http://www.emailarchivestaskforce.org/documents/email-tools/ lists dozens of archiving systems [2] https://www.fastmail.com/help/receive/addressing.html
Greg Rundlett https://eQuality-Tech.com https://freephile.org
In any case, I highly doubt spam harvesters follow robots.txt
-- brian
On Sunday, April 29, 2018, Greg Rundlett (freephile) greg@freephile.com wrote:
There are ways to combat bots, both on-list with configuration like *obscure_addresses*, and through the process of archiving. [1]
Decent email providers like GMail do a great job of filtering spam for the end user. Others like Comcast or Verizon do not.
There are many ways that the end user can help themselves. For example, use a list-specific address through plus-addressing or sub-domain addressing. [2]
[1] http://www.emailarchivestaskforce.org/documents/email-tools/ lists dozens of archiving systems [2] https://www.fastmail.com/help/receive/addressing.html
Greg Rundlett https://eQuality-Tech.com https://freephile.org _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
This is done now: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193572
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 1:33 AM, G Rundlett greg.rundlett@gmail.com wrote:
I fully agree with, and support your proposal.
Search is key
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