Dear Mark, thanl you for the explanation. I have found PHP Version 5.3.15 (it seems to come together with Xcode). It ignores the PHP commands in the *.html files, but recognises PHP commands in the *.php files Hope, it is sufficient. Also, I seem to have MySQL loaded: some hundreds files are located with comand /usr/local> locate mysql /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/collabd/gems/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8/gems/activerecord-3.0.10/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/mysql_adapter.rb /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/collabd/gems/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8/gems/activerecord-3.0.10/lib/active_record/railties/jdbcmysql_error.rb /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/collabd/gems/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8/gems/arel-2.0.10/lib/arel/visitors/mysql.rb /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/collabd/gems/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8/gems/railties-3.0.10/lib/rails/generators/rails/app/templates/config/databases/jdbcmysql.yml /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/collabd/gems/vendor/bundle/ruby/1.8/gems/railties-3.0.10/lib/rails/generators/rails/app/templates/config/databases/mysql.yml /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/devicemgr/backend/vendor/rails/activerecord/lib/active_record/connection_adapters/mysql_adapter.rb /Applications/Server.app/Contents/ServerRoot/usr/share/devicemgr/backend/vendor/rails/railties/configs/databases/mysql.yml /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.7.sdk/usr/include/php/ext/mysqli ... but I cannot find the executable mysql, mentioned in the manuals, and command mysql "is not found". I have no idea, what do I wrong. Shold I continue searching for a way to activate the MySQL before to install MediaWiki 1.21.0 ? On Mon, 1 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: ... I think, PDFs are good and sufficient. Is it that mentioned in the section "High-resolution image support" ? (formally, as PDF, as EPS have infinite resolution..)

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Mark A. Hershberger &lt;mah(a)everybody.org&gt;wrote;wrote: I run a test instance on my OS X machine (currently 10.8.3). I use the MySQL installer package from dev.mysql.com -- try < http://dev.mysql.com/get/Downloads/MySQL-5.6/mysql-5.6.10-osx10.7-x86_64.dm… Double-click and run the installer; also double-click the preferences pane to install that, it makes it easy to start and stop the MySQL server. This will install the 'mysql' command into /usr/local/mysql/bin so you might need to add a line like this to your ~/.profile file: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/mysql/bin Note that you may also need to adjust /etc/php.ini and add a line like: mysql.default_socket=/tmp/mysql.sock for the Apple-provided PHP to see MySQL properly. You may need to stop and restart the web server after adjusting php.ini. > > I think, PDFs are good and sufficient. You'll want <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PdfHandler> to support upload of PDFs; by default this will rasterize the PDFs for inline display, so you don't need a browser plugin. The extension depends on some external Unix programs as mentioned on that page, you should be able to install them through HomeBrew or MacPorts. -- brion

In order to test the MediaWiki version 1.21 I still try to install MySQL. Perhaps, I repeat some error again and again, but I cannot catch it.. While I filled the quiz at http://www.w3schools.com/quiztest/quiztest.asp?qtest=SQL W3Schools SQL Quiz Result: 20 of 20 // 100% Perfect!!! Time Spent 4:40. Of course, I still cannot execute any example from the quiz, the sytem cannot find MySQL! I think, the questions of the quiz should be reformulated. I suggest the following questions for the quiz: 1. How many different sites pretend to distribute MySQL? Possible answers: (from 1 to 3, from 4 to 10, from 11 to 100) 2. How many different sites distribute workable versions of MySQL? Possible answers: (1, 2, more than 2) 3. How many keys and bottoms should one press in order to get the workable version of MySQL? Possible answers: (from 5 to 10, from 11 to 100, from 1001 to 10000) 4. How many of them can be found in the documentation? Possible answers: (from 2 to 5, from 6 to 10, from 11 to 10000) 5. Where does MySQL load the databases by defailt? Possible answers: ( /mysql/data , /usr/mysqldata, directory with randomly choosen name) 6. Where should these databases be stored in order to be usable by Mediawiki? ( /mysql/data , /usr/mediawiki/mysql, anywhere) 7. Where does the Mediawiki keep its database? ( /mediawiki/data , /usr/mediawiki/mysql/data, directory with random name) 8. Is it possible to access these databases directly from MySQL? (Yes, it is easy; Yes, but it is very difficuylt; No WAY!) 9. Is it necessary to learn MySQL in order to install a workable version of Mediawiki? (Yes, one shouild take one year course of MySQL before to have any hopes for the successful installation; No, one can do it within few days, within less than a hundred of attempts) 10. What for does Xcode load so many files related to MySQL? (At the good skills of Xcode and MySQL, these files still can be used; This is simulation of ubdate with respect to the previous version) ==========

On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Sorry. I just wanted to test the Wiki you suggest, and I need to have PHP and MySQL ready. I did not expect that I'll have to learn PHP and MySQL; I expected the Mediawiki to do all the technical job. Not. I even thout that that was the April-Full joke. Following Brion's instruction, I got the packages; When I tried to open the package, there was error message ".. cannot be opened because it is from unidentified developer." and nothing seems to be installed from there. Now I try to get the MySQL through "Oracle": There is very small, barely readable line that begins with words "No thanks.."; that line happened to be the key. Tomorrow I'll check it; then I hope to get MySQL and then I try to test the MediaWiki 1.21.0.

On 04/04/2013 10:37 AM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: The tarball has some bundled extensions that I don't think come when you use the second link. See the extensions directory. I'm not entirely sure what you mean here. You've mentioned before that you're running MAMP on OS X, I think. I'm not sure where its webroot is. That would be ideal, yes. I'm not sure how applicable that is given the variety of platforms MediaWiki runs on. For example, on many Linux platforms /var/www/wiki or ~/public_html/wiki would be a good location. I don't think either of those locations would work for Windows or most OS X users. Your perspective on all this is fascinating to me. I haven't really considered that someone without a little basic PHP/MySQL knowledge would try to install MediaWiki. I really appreciate all the insight you've given me so far. But I have to ask, what is your motivation for installing MediaWiki? What are you trying to accomplish? -- http://hexmode.com/ [We are] immortal ... because [we have] a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance. -- William Faulker, Nobel Prize acceptance speech

On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 21:30:54 -0700, Dmitrii Kouznetsov &lt;dima(a)ils.uec.ac.jp&gt; wrote: Btw, installing this stuff on a server is generally much different than installing it on your local machine. Generally you use a some type of linux on the server which usually has a nice package manager to help you out. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://danielfriesen.name/]

On Fri, 5 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: This should not be a problem: I never had installed mediawiki at a local machine. But this is good idea; perhaps, I shold try. Mac mini Server Late 2012 Software OS X 10.8.2 (12C3103) I have copied directory mediawiki-1.21.0rc1 to the webroot and begin the set-up. I shoose the default oprions, and get the message DB connection error: No such file or directory (localhost) Check the host, username and password and try again. So, I create directory /a to store the database and I specify it instead of the "localhost" Then, the message changed to DB connection error: php_network_getaddressses: getaddrinfo failed: nodename not servername provided, or not known (/a) Check the host, username and password and try again. You may consider to provide some examples for the setup service: I really have no idea, where does Mediawiki keep the database, and what could be correct value for the "Database host". It seems to be impossible to guess.

Hello, Mark. I continue testing the 1.21 version. The default installation seems to work; however, it does not support formula typing, nor references nor the short url. I see neither "short URL" nor MathJax" among the "extensions" you syggest; so, I insgtall again. This time, I choose all the extensions offered. I Expected that some of them provide the required options. The extensions seem to conflict; I get message [6ea7a99f] 2013-04-06 14:22:46: Fatal exception of type MWException Sincerely, Dima.

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Hence, I made another error; perhaps, indicating the cache. (I just copypasted the IPs, without to analyze their meaning) I reproduce the error. This time, I add few lines to the LocalSetting.php Now it begins with <?php error_reporting( -1 ); ini_set( 'display_errors', 1 ); $wgShowSQLErrors = true; $wgDebugDumpSql = true; $wgShowDBErrorBacktrace = true; # This file was automatically generated by the MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 ... The update causes alost the same message: [5f42f4e0] 2013-04-06 16:22:34: Fatal exception of type MWException I do not understand, where should get the log of the error(s). Explanations at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug#Logging are a little bit complicated. Assume, /Users/dima/www is writable; which lines shold I add to LocalSetting.php in order to indicate, that I want to pick up the log file there? Off-topic about short URL: the description at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL suggests a lot of links, but does not provide the script, that does the job.

On Sat, 6 Apr 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I think so. This appeared during the set-up. En fin, we guessed, that the correct answer is '127.0.0.1'. If others have the same problem, consider to suggest it as deault or to provide more explicit instruction. Good idea! (Although I do not understand, what is tarball.) I continue trying the extensions. Good, I'll test them. OK. Step by step. Consider to include also the short URL. I suspect, nobody prefer the long URL. Dima.

Mark, he meant his request <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Suggestions_for_extensions_to_be_integrated#Short_URL>. Nemo

On 05/02/2013 06:06 AM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: MediaWiki is server software and, as such, there are certain prerequisites for installing the software. Since MediaWiki can be installed on many different platforms -- OS X, Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc -- we do not have the resources to provide an automated installer for a bare-metal installation for each of them. That is to say: yes, you should learn how to install and use MacPorts, MySQL, PHP, etc if you wish to maintain your installation of MediaWiki yourself. The usefulness of skills is not limited to MediaWiki, though. If you do not have time to learn these skills, you should consider using your IT department or finding a contractor to do the work for you. I did not. The extension has worked with older versions of MediaWiki and so 1.21.0rc1 (where "rc" stands for "release candidate") is provided so that people can discover problems with it. I use Linux as my MediaWiki server platform, so MacPorts (a solution for OS X) would be useless to me. There should be someone else on the mediawiki-l mailing list who has experience installing MediaWiki on OS X who could help you with MacPorts. Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson

On Thu 02 May 2013 09:04:42 AM EDT, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: To help you fix the problem, I need some more information. What does your webserver's PHP error log say? -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson

On Thu, 2 May 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: I found instructions about the PHP error log at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/error_log-defines-file-where-script-errors-log… It sent me to /etc/php.ini I have found that file at my server. It is long, and, among other, there is line there ;error_log = syslog I located the syslog; it is at /usr/bin It is binary and, perhaps, not supposed to be viewed by a human.. (It begins with repeated "^@^@^@^@^@ ..")

On 05/02/2013 09:09 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: The PDF_Include extension that you are using has a bug. I took some time today to look at this today and updated the code. You should update your code and try again: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Include -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson

Hello, Mark. I continue the testing. At the attempt to load a long text file ( 4M +), the wiki suggested, that the file size should not exceed 2048K. (And did not save). At the attempt to save part of that file (some of order of 1.8M) the following message is observed: Database error A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "Revision::insertOn". Database returned error "2006: MySQL server has gone away (127.0.0.1)". Actually, the MySQL does not seem to go away: the mediawiki respons other requests. Who sends such a message: MySQL or MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 ? Did you try to save a long page with MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 ?

On Sun, 5 May 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Mark, thank you for the explanation; it solves the part of the problem. (mysql shold be stopped and then started in order to see the effect.) Now I can load 2,048 kilobytes instead of 1,024 kilobytes at the previous setting. But still I have message Error: The text you have submitted is 2,424 kilobytes long, which is longer than the maximum of 2,048 kilobytes. It cannot be saved. There are hints at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Configuring_file_uploads it suggests: $wgUploadSizeWarning = 2147483648; $wgMaxUploadSize = 2147483648; Also, modify the following lines in PHP.INI: memory_limit = 2048M (this line may not be necessary) post_max_size = 2048M upload_max_filesize = 2048M As I understand, the lines with dollars refer to LocalSettings.php and the PHP.INI refers to /private/etc/php.ini I have edited these two files, but still I have the same error message. Perhaps, there is at least one more lock I cannot find.

On 05/07/2013 07:15 AM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: Why are you trying to create wikipages that are so large? Also, you're looking in the wrong place. The error doesn't come from uploading a file but from editing a wikipage. The message is longpageerror (which you can see at http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/h/index.php/MediaWiki:Longpageerror) and is displayed when you attempt to create an article longer than $wgMaxArticleSize (see: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxArticleSize). Before increasing the size, though, you should think about how many wiki pages you anticipate being that long. -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson

On Tue 07 May 2013 10:50:41 PM EDT, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: It says "$1 kilobytes" and "$2 kilobytes", not "1 kilobytes" and "2 kilobytes". The messages are used by the code and $1 and $2 stand for the first and second arguments passed when the message is displayed. This makes the wiki able to display these messages in whatever language the user has selected. See https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=MediaWiki:Longpageerror/kab&act… for an example of how these messages can be translated to other languages. Please do not fail to report back your findings. Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ Imagination does not breed insanity. Exactly what does breed insanity is reason. Poets do not go mad; but chess-players do. -- G.K. Chesterson

On Wed, 8 May 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Mark, I continue to make new "findings" and report them. Today, I made some duplicate of site http://tori.ils.uec.ac.jp/TORI (desconnected by decision of Hitoki Yoneda, director); the duplicate is at http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/TORID and some functins do not work well there. For example, figure http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/TORID/index.php/File:Tetsheldonmap03.png does not show. I tried to upload the plot again, and got the diagnostics Internal error [1f5fe00e] 2013-05-13 12:25:43: Fatal exception of type UploadStashFileException I upload the same image to http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/c/index.php/File:Tetsheldonmap03.png At c, no problems. About http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/TORID : I have dumped the database from old wiki and loaded it to server mizugadro; and I had copied the shell files and images as http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/TORI But the result does not work at all, it shows the empty frame. Then I made new wiki from MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 package at http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/TORID and gave it the same database, and made the symbolik link to the images. The result is usable, but some functions tail. It seemed to me, that, while copying a wiki, the only database should be dumped and the file with images should be copied; the other staff should be taken from the distribution of mediawiki, as the old copy does not work at another computer. Now I see, there are still some tricks I have to understand. This is intermediate report, I keep trying.

On Sun, 5 May 2013, Mark A. Hershberger wrote: Consider to make it default. My needs may be pretty different from needs of the most of users; so, consider them critically. My preference would be, if the PDF files can be loaded in the same way, as I load the JPG,GIF and PNG. I would use this in tens (or even hundreds) of pages. As for the special key to zoom only the PDF images, this may be useful for few pages; perhaps, in some appendices, for some fractals, etc. Mark, not yet. I am still beginner. Yet, I cannot add my contribution to the software. I can only run that you do and indicate the cases, when the MediaWiki and its extensions do something different from that I would like them to do. I could not install the ShortURL, I could not install the Extension:PdfHandler. (And I still do not understand, why the PDF files should be handled in a way, pretty different from that for JPG, GIF and PNG.) I could not even make a copy the "Vector" skin (In order to leave more place for the main text, I have to modify the original skin). And there are many other things I still cannot do. The version you offer seems to be very good; but I think, it could be much better. are too complicated. Moving one button often affects many others. I do not unrarstand, why the sintax for the left hand side menu bar is so different from the sintax of the regular pages. I did not find a way to reduce the active area for the logo; in many cases, it extends much farther than the logo image. And there are many other things I would do in different way. May be, one day I'll be able to make my own skin. Below I explain, why do I learn this. My initial intent was to use the software, that supports the formula typing, cross-references, image uploading, and keeps memory about previous versions; in order not to learn HTML, Java, PHP, MuSQL, nor MediaWiki.. Then in happened, that in our University, there is no one honest specialist, that could handle MediaWiki; but there are some vandals, who seem to be bribed by my scientific opponents, and pretend to be specialists.. They attacked wiki "TORI", without to make any critical note on its content at the discussion pages. They plundered its URL, and I had to raise the international scandal in order to get it back. My goal is not a scandal, but the simple and robust database to store my results and links to the publications I consider to be important. For this reason I test your MediaWiki. I often use the equipment, and, in particular, the software, in a way, pretty different from that the creators usually keep in thier minds. For this reason, I catch many problems; some of them are my errors, but other are just bugs of the software. I already got the working version of Mediawiki, that seems to be sufficient for my needs; but it is difficult to stop, while I see that the installation can be done even better.. I am not sure if you understand my motivation.. I usually work on things, that are believed to be IMPOSSIBLE. I dislike to write scripts, that can be easily programmed by the professionals. I could contribute, making holomorphic function(s) with required properties (and the efficient numeric implementations), if you need some. But I suspect, this is off-topic..

I would offer a suggestion. I would love to see two different tarballs offered. One that is ONLY MediaWiki and another with bundled extensions. I manage my suite of extensions mostly via git and it worries me when I update that the tarball is going to blow away newer bits in my extensions. This would be alleviated with a tar that is "core only" or something. Just my $0.02. Jamie Thingelstad jamie(a)thingelstad.com mobile: 612-810-3699 find me on AIM Twitter Facebook LinkedIn On Apr 12, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Mark A. Hershberger &lt;mah(a)everybody.org&gt; wrote:

That's aweomse! Thank you! Jamie Thingelstad jamie(a)thingelstad.com mobile: 612-810-3699 find me on AIM Twitter Facebook LinkedIn On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Mark A. Hershberger &lt;mah(a)everybody.org&gt; wrote:

I continue testing the MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 distribution. I continue trying to make the ShortURL. I modified added several lines to /etc/apache2/httpd.conf and modified the LocalSetting.php folowing instructions at http://shorturls.redwerks.org/?fcgi_pass=127.0.0.1%3A9000&source=userda… but this did not work; the brouser cannot find the short URL. It seems to me, modification of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf does not affect anything. I am not sure if this is failure of the MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 . In certains sense, it is a fault of the distribution: It includes many extensions, which seem to me useless, while the important extensions, namely, ShortURL and MathJax, are not included; so, one has to learn Apache, PHP and other things, in order to understand the instructions, how to install these extensions and how to make them work. I hope, Mark A. Hershberger makes the distribution, that includes at least Cite, MathJax, ShortURL, Poem by default. The first three extensions are the most important, but the fourth extension, "poem", is also useful: it simplifies the copypast of the C++ codes; so, better to keep it in the future verions. Now only two of the four extensions I need are included in the tarball. My preliminary concluson about MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 : In the present form of the distribution of Mediawiki, the installing of the extensions requires long, heavy and dangerous (at least for the server) work and/or a lot of skills from the downloader.

Sorry, I have a problem: the integral, typed at mediawiki, look well at the Preview, but it disappears after to save the page. Could you look please at http://mizugadro.mydns.jp/b

Thank you for your visit. The mantainers know about this, as they suggest the suppression of the cache. If there are many formulas at a page, it may be slow to load because the cache is suppressed. Not a big deal. Thank you. Next time I hope get it together with other staff, and have no need to install it manually. Consider, if anything can be done about ShorURL. I could not install it by myself. I suspect, this is not a bug of the extension, but my inability to understand the instructions on the installing. Does it work with MediaWiki 1.21.0rc1 at your computer? Dmitrii.

On 04/16/2013 12:38 PM, Dmitrii Kouznetsov wrote: Thank you for your comments. They're very helpful. Mark. -- http://hexmode.com/ It is not the case that simple clear questions have simple clear answers, not even in the world of pure ideas, and much less so in the messy real world of everyday life. -- Gregory Chaitin, "Paradoxes of Randomness"