Hello, We are running a private wiki (MW version 1.24.1) so that anonymous users get no rights, and logged in users get the 'user' group rights. However, we have also set in the LocalSettings file: $wgAutopromote['editor'] = array(APCOND_INGROUPS, 'autoconfirmed'); and set various permissions for this group. Additionally we have set : $wgAutopromote['sysop'] = array(APCOND_ISIP, '141.163.4.11'); However, when I log in and look at the special user rights management page for my own userid, I see that I am in no specific group except for the implied group of 'autoconfirmed users' and Administrators. There are checkboxes for the Administrators, Bureaucrats and 'editor' groups, but none of them are ticked. If I tick a checkbox, and then click save, it says the setting has been saved but unchecks the checkbox again. Secondly, and more worryingly, is that if I log in using the 141.163.4.11 IP address, and look at the special user rights page, it shows everyone as being in the 'Administrators' (sysop) group! If I take out the autopromote from the LocalSettings file, then no-one (other than the original account created during installation) is shown as being in the Administrators group. Very strange. So, two things, why can we not set anyone in a group on the user rights management page, and why does the autopromote put everyone in the Administrators/sysop group? Thanks, John. -- ---------------------------------------------------- John Horne Tel: +44 (0)1752 587287 Plymouth University, UK