Hello,

I do not think it's good idea. Redirect can be temporary and 301 can cause damage then.

Martin

po 1. 1. 2018 v 21:05 odesílatel Christian Schröder < news+mediawiki-l@l7010.de> napsal:

Hello,

i am very new to mediawiki and i am helping an existing installation. We would like to move some pages to a new wiki and tried use the #Redirect directive with interwiki links.

This works so far but it issues 302 Found HTTP Status code. We would like to use the status code 301 to help the search engines.

Can the #Redirect mechanism be used for this?

The documentation at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Redirects did not indicate any solution.

I found in the mailing list only this thread from February 2014 https://www.mail-archive.com/mediawiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org/msg13247.html

Also not conclusive but leaning in the direction of no, not possible.

I tried to skim through the mediawiki codebase and found redirect handling in includes/MediaWiki.php L226 [1]. I cannot understand it fully, but it seems not to be possible.

If there is no native/builtin way to do this, is there an extension which might be able to this (redirect individual pages via Status 301 to another interwiki page).

thank you

Christian

[1]

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/source/mediawiki/browse/master/includes/Me...

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Hello, Unfortunately what you’re trying to do isn’t possible. If you want to export your entire wiki and import it to a new location (and the wiki is fairly small), you can go to Special:Export on the original wiki, and enter Special:AllPages as the “page to export”. Make sure you check the box that says “include templates”. This will supply all pages of the wiki into an XML file, which you can then import via Special:Import on the new wiki. Note however that if your wiki is very large, you cannot export/import on-wiki and will need to use a server-side maintenance script (I don’t remember the name of the top of my head). It is not possible to completely redirect one wiki site to an entirely different wiki site - redirects can only be used for redirecting one page to another page. However, if you own the URL domain to the current wiki, once you’ve exported/imported to the new site, you can redirect the URL to the new wiki, so that when visitors click the old URL they will automatically go to the new URL. I don’t know how to do this since I’ve never run a website on a personal server, but I know that it is possible. — Amanda

On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, 9:46 AM, Christian Schröder news+mediawiki-l@l7010.de wrote:

On 01.01.18 21:18, Amanda Quad wrote:

Hello, The #REDIRECT function is only for redirecting pages within your wiki to other pages within your wiki. It cannot be used to redirect pages within your wiki to another external non-MediaWiki site. However, if you are using https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Interwiki%C2%A0you can set up interwiki prefixes to Point to other MediaWiki sites, for example, Wikipedia. Examples:

• If you want your wiki page “Test” to automatically redirect users who open it to the page “Example”, you can replace all content on the page “Test” with #REDRIECT [[Example]]
• If you have configured a prefix for Wikipedia in Special:Interwiki (usually something like “en:” or “wikipedia:”), you can do an interwiki soft redirect between your wiki and Wikipedia. However please note that soft redirects do not redirect users automatically - they require the users to click on the redirect link. So, if you wanted to redirect the page “Test” on your wiki to the Wikipedia Main Page, and you were using en: as the interwiki prefix, you would replace all content on the page “Test” on your wiki with #REDIRECT [[:en:Main Page]].

Hello Amanda, thanks for the reply. This is exactly what we do, sorry for cutting short my description. And we were happy that #REDIRECT just works with interwiki links.

But our problem is the status code of the redirect.

Some more background behind the problem:

We try to split our current wiki into 2 separate ones, because our users have multiple use cases for it and it gets confusing for everyone having articles usable in one use case and others in other use cases. And new users are even more confused what they are supposed to find or do.

So what we try to do is "extract" all pages from one use case into a new wiki. That is why the permanent redirect with 301 is from our perspective the correct thing, because the topic/page will not ever need to come back.

thanks for your help Christian

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