On 19/02/2008, 65s.mg(a)atlas.cz <65s.mg(a)atlas.cz> wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. I tried: {{#ifeq: {{#dpl: |category = Service |category = CU {{{cu_name}}} |titlematch = Infobox SC % }} |%DPL-1.6.4-WARNING: No results! || {{#dpl: |category = Service |category = CU {{{cu_name}}} |titlematch = Infobox SC % |include = {Infobox Service Info}:sc_id:sla_id:sla_title:comment |table=class = sortable border=2 cellpadding=2,-,service id,sla id,sla title,comment }} }} which works if the data exist, but returns a "%DPL-1.6.4-WARNING: No results!" when the data is missing. I guess I somehow need to escape the special characters, but I cannot find what Mediawiki uses for escape character. Is there one? Kind regards, Herta -- "Life on Earth may be expensive, but it comes with a free ride around the Sun."

On 19/02/2008, Dan Bolser <dan.bolser(a)gmail.com> wrote: Exactly what I need. Thanks, Dan! Kind regards, Herta -- "Life on Earth may be expensive, but it comes with a free ride around the Sun."

On 26/02/2008, Grietinus Koops <grietinus(a)gmail.com> wrote: We're using the dpl extension to create dynamic pages (cf. http://semeb.com/dpldemo/ if you don't know it yet). We're creating a customer -> services -> servers structure in our wiki (one to many relationships). We have a "data" article for each customer, service, and server, which simply defines a number of variables for that customer, service, and server. We have a dpl template for customers, another for services and a third for servers, which read the data from the "data" articles and formats it so that we have a uniform layout at each level. We then create one article per customer, service, and server, which calls the corresponding template to create the part that needs to be uniform, and allows room to add information specific to that customer, service, and server. We created semi-templates for both "data" and the actual customer, service, and server articles, which people responsible for a new project can copy. All they have to do then is fill in the blanks. The current data is extracted from a number of customer database type systems, and sometimes data is missing. I was looking for a way to stop dpl from throwing a warning. The nice thing about this setup is that we can start out with a limited amount of data. Later on, we can simply replace the data articles with more elaborate ones (adding more variables), adjust the templates, and we're done. Hope this clarifies it. Kind regards, Herta -- "Life on Earth may be expensive, but it comes with a free ride around the Sun."

On 27/02/2008, DanTMan <dan_the_man(a)telus.net> wrote: Thanks for the suggestion, Dan. No, I haven't looked at Semantic MediaWiki in great detail. Setting up this wiki was one of those proof of concepts projects which turned into a "we needed this yesterday". As far as I could see, using dpl has the advantage that the infobox templates can be put in separate pages, so that they can easily be replaced, and can also be called from the final article itself. As I explained, we're starting out with a minimal set of data, because we're currently more interested in the structure, and the final customer-service-servers articles where people can add free text (instructions on how to repair things for starters). The idea is to later create a new set of infobox templates which will be pre-loaded with more detailed data from the CMDBs, but for which we will also write a front-end so that users can only pick predefined values for certain variables (or 'properties' in semantic speak). If the variables are embedded in the customer-service-servers articles, I wouldn't know how to add more variables automatically, other than starting to manipulate the article data in the database, which I prefer not to. But then, there still is a lot I don't know about Mediawiki and its extensions, so feel free to correct me or point me to better ways of doing things. Always happy to learn. Kind regards, Herta -- "Life on Earth may be expensive, but it comes with a free ride around the Sun."

On 27/02/2008, DanTMan &lt;dan_the_man(a)telus.net&gt; wrote: lot The Semantic Forms definitely sounds like it will help achieve our goal. But I'm still not clear about the Semantic Mediawiki. Perhaps a "small" example will explain it better. (Hope you have time to read this.) Right now, I have a page [[Infobox SVR SVR001]] which looks like this: [[Category:Server]] [[Category:CU customer001]] [[Category:SC service001]] {{Infobox Server Info | svr_name = SVR001 | svr_customer = [[CU customer001|customer001]] | svr_ctct = [[IR person001|person001]] | svr_sbu_port = 14001 }} I have a [[Template:HW Server]], which looks like this: {| | '''name:''' | {{#dpl: | title=Infobox SVR {{{svr_name}}} | include={Infobox Server Info}:svr_name }} |- | '''customer:''' | {{#dpl: | title=Infobox SVR {{{svr_name}}} | include={Infobox Server Info}:svr_customer}} |- | '''server contact:''' | {{#dpl: | title=Infobox SVR {{{svr_name}}} | include={Infobox Server Info}:svr_ctct}} |} I then have an actual article page [[SVR SVR001]] that looks like this: [[Category:Server]] [[Category:CU customer001]] [[Category:SC service001]] {{HW Server | svr_name = SVR001 }} <!--- Free text. E.g., ---> To log into this server, use port {{#dpl: | title=Infobox SVR {{{SVR001}}} | include={Infobox Server Info}:svr_sbu_port}}. I may have other articles that refer to data in [[Infobox SVR SVR001]]. E.g., the [[Template:SC Service]] will pick up all servers belonging to a given service using this snippet: {{#dpl: | category = Server | category = SC {{{sc_id}}} | titlematch = Infobox SVR % | noresultsheader = {{Warning_Box | text = server(s) missing!}} | include = {Infobox Server Info}:svr_name:svr_ctct:svr_customer | table = class=sortable border=2 cellpadding=2,-,server,contact,customer }} The idea is that I can e.g., change the contact in single place, add a new server, generate a list of all services without servers, etc., without having to update any of the other pages. Can you do similar things with the Semantic Mediawiki? Can you use Semantic Forms without the Semantic Mediawiki? Kind regards, Herta -- "Life on Earth may be expensive, but it comes with a free ride around the Sun."

On 27/02/2008, Herta Van den Eynde &lt;herta.vandeneynde(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Mediawiki's great for those. Spend some time getting requests from the users and looking for fun stuff on mediawiki.org - it's a quick and easy way to look like a wizardly genius to your boss and coworkers. - d.