I changed my logo by setting $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php. I believe that's the right way.
It only shows up on some pages. It seems like it likes to show up on editing pages, login pages--pages with forms. It doesn't show up on content pages (when you're only reading them), the main page, etc. When it doesn't show up, I don't see a broken image box or anything, it's just not there.
It doesn't seem to matter what skin I use, and I've been sure to clear cache and restart httpd, etc. It's actually happening the same way in two different installations. In both cases the logos are nice and small; one of them is a png with transparency and the other is a non-transparent png. Any ideas?
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
Thanks, Matt
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Matt Morgan wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
Shouldn't a search for `mediawiki wiki' (w/o quotes) return: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ???
`mediawiki' alone works, so that's fine, but not expected.
I personally have a problem with the wiki I am running: `bioinformatics wiki' should return some link to http://wikiomics.org in the top ten Google results, if not first.
So I really don't know what I can do, I was used to much better results from Google for my non-wiki pages, without forcing anything. Does anyone have a similar experience? Any fix?
Martin
-- Martin Jambon, PhD http://martin.jambon.free.fr
Visit http://wikiomics.org, the Bioinformatics Howto Wiki
On 2/10/06, Martin Jambon martin_jambon@emailuser.net wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
I signed up for this list awhile back, and I just route all the msgs in Gmail to archived - I have everything that's been sent since I signed up, it's a little over 1,000 msgs. Given Gmail's huge amount of storage, it's no problem to keep them all - a personal Wiki database of sorts. I can search in Gmail over all the recent emailings.
This isn't a perfect solution, and it won't help you for things in the past (or right now), but if you let it build up enough over time, you just might have what you want in Gmail.
-- Joe Siegler dopefish@gmail.com - John 3:16
Martin Jambon wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Matt Morgan wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
Shouldn't a search for `mediawiki wiki' (w/o quotes) return: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ???
It does, in position #12. And the higher results are mostly reasonable, too.
`mediawiki' alone works, so that's fine, but not expected.
Their secret and proprietary ranking algorithms tell Google that people searching for [mediawiki wiki] should get the other results higher, as compared to plain [mediawiki] results. Tweaking the algorithms to do otherwise might help some cases, but hurt elsewhere. They're optimizing with regard to a lot of variables, so local anomalies aren't surprising. And can we be sure their ordering for [mediawiki wiki] isn't optimal for generating the most satisfied users (or most ad revenue)?
Overall, they seem to be doing great ranking wikis and URLs/content with 'wiki' in them. There's no evidence of any 'flaw'.
I personally have a problem with the wiki I am running: `bioinformatics wiki' should return some link to http://wikiomics.org in the top ten Google results, if not first.
How modest! :) You do appear somewhere around 60-70.
And, you are named in the 'snippet' shown for the #1 Google result, a Wikipedia page, perhaps helped by the way you bumped your site to the very top of the list of related links in an edit January 31st.
So I really don't know what I can do, I was used to much better results from Google for my non-wiki pages, without forcing anything. Does anyone have a similar experience? Any fix?
It looks like your site is less than 3 months old. So step #1 would be: just wait. It takes a while -- sometimes 6 months or more -- before Google trusts new sites with a prominent ranking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_Effect
Separate from the sandbox effect: as your site gets deeper content, more organic links from diverse sites (not just backlinks you've pushed out yourself), and longer visits from happy users, you should also expect it to find its "true" higher level.
- Gordon
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Gordon Mohr (@ Bitzi) wrote:
Martin Jambon wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Matt Morgan wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
Shouldn't a search for `mediawiki wiki' (w/o quotes) return: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ???
It does, in position #12. And the higher results are mostly reasonable, too.
Mmmmh, I don't feel that's usual Google quality.
`mediawiki' alone works, so that's fine, but not expected.
Their secret and proprietary ranking algorithms tell Google that people searching for [mediawiki wiki] should get the other results higher, as compared to plain [mediawiki] results. Tweaking the algorithms to do otherwise might help some cases, but hurt elsewhere. They're optimizing with regard to a lot of variables, so local anomalies aren't surprising. And can we be sure their ordering for [mediawiki wiki] isn't optimal for generating the most satisfied users (or most ad revenue)?
Overall, they seem to be doing great ranking wikis and URLs/content with 'wiki' in them. There's no evidence of any 'flaw'.
Maybe it's just a sandbox effect on my site as you suggest. I was suspecting that all links from blogs and wikis tagged with rel=nofollow would have a bad effect on the ranking of these new generation websites (as far as I understand it's a widespread practice which is supposed to avoid Google bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing).
I personally have a problem with the wiki I am running: `bioinformatics wiki' should return some link to http://wikiomics.org in the top ten Google results, if not first.
How modest! :) You do appear somewhere around 60-70.
Come on, there are not 60 bioinformatics wikis!
Funny thing: I was about to say "come on, Google is not Altavista". So I discovered that (1) Altavista still exists and (2) my site is ranked #2 on Altavista! Too bad nobody uses Altavista anymore.
And, you are named in the 'snippet' shown for the #1 Google result, a Wikipedia page, perhaps helped by the way you bumped your site to the very top of the list of related links in an edit January 31st.
So I really don't know what I can do, I was used to much better results from Google for my non-wiki pages, without forcing anything. Does anyone have a similar experience? Any fix?
It looks like your site is less than 3 months old. So step #1 would be: just wait. It takes a while -- sometimes 6 months or more -- before Google trusts new sites with a prominent ranking:
Very interesting, thank you. That matches exactly my symptoms.
Separate from the sandbox effect: as your site gets deeper content, more organic links from diverse sites (not just backlinks you've pushed out yourself), and longer visits from happy users, you should also expect it to find its "true" higher level.
Sure.
Martin
-- Martin Jambon, PhD http://martin.jambon.free.fr
Visit http://wikiomics.org, the Bioinformatics Howto Wiki
Sorry if this comes a bit off-topic, but it is an important followup of a thread 3 months ago.
For the record: 3 months ago I was complaining about the bad google ranking of my wiki site (http://wikiomics.org) when looking for "good" keywords (`bioinformatics wiki'). Today (hopefully it will last), it is the first time I see it appear in the top 10 results (ranked 2nd after [[wikipedia:bioinformatics]] in both Google search and Yahoo! search).
So I was not completely wrong in my expectations, and the concept of "sandbox effect" seems to apply. It took approximately 6 months since the opening of the site to get honorable Google results (see the date of one announcement I made at that time: http://www-iphicles.rcsb.org/pdb/lists/pdb-l/200511/003012.html)
Martin
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Martin Jambon wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Gordon Mohr (@ Bitzi) wrote:
Martin Jambon wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Matt Morgan wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
Shouldn't a search for `mediawiki wiki' (w/o quotes) return: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ???
It does, in position #12. And the higher results are mostly reasonable, too.
Mmmmh, I don't feel that's usual Google quality.
`mediawiki' alone works, so that's fine, but not expected.
Their secret and proprietary ranking algorithms tell Google that people searching for [mediawiki wiki] should get the other results higher, as compared to plain [mediawiki] results. Tweaking the algorithms to do otherwise might help some cases, but hurt elsewhere. They're optimizing with regard to a lot of variables, so local anomalies aren't surprising. And can we be sure their ordering for [mediawiki wiki] isn't optimal for generating the most satisfied users (or most ad revenue)?
Overall, they seem to be doing great ranking wikis and URLs/content with 'wiki' in them. There's no evidence of any 'flaw'.
Maybe it's just a sandbox effect on my site as you suggest. I was suspecting that all links from blogs and wikis tagged with rel=nofollow would have a bad effect on the ranking of these new generation websites (as far as I understand it's a widespread practice which is supposed to avoid Google bombing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_bombing).
I personally have a problem with the wiki I am running: `bioinformatics wiki' should return some link to http://wikiomics.org in the top ten Google results, if not first.
How modest! :) You do appear somewhere around 60-70.
Come on, there are not 60 bioinformatics wikis!
Funny thing: I was about to say "come on, Google is not Altavista". So I discovered that (1) Altavista still exists and (2) my site is ranked #2 on Altavista! Too bad nobody uses Altavista anymore.
And, you are named in the 'snippet' shown for the #1 Google result, a Wikipedia page, perhaps helped by the way you bumped your site to the very top of the list of related links in an edit January 31st.
So I really don't know what I can do, I was used to much better results from Google for my non-wiki pages, without forcing anything. Does anyone have a similar experience? Any fix?
It looks like your site is less than 3 months old. So step #1 would be: just wait. It takes a while -- sometimes 6 months or more -- before Google trusts new sites with a prominent ranking:
Very interesting, thank you. That matches exactly my symptoms.
Separate from the sandbox effect: as your site gets deeper content, more organic links from diverse sites (not just backlinks you've pushed out yourself), and longer visits from happy users, you should also expect it to find its "true" higher level.
Sure.
Martin
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Edit http://wikiomics.org, bioinformatics wiki
Martin Jambon wrote: .> "sandbox effect" seems to apply. It took approximately 6 months since the
opening of the site to get honorable Google results
I don't know how you qualify to "honorable". The site fr.opensuse.org is open since February (3 month) and a site search shows:
site:fr.opensuse.org
Résultats 1 - 10 sur un total d'environ 36 800 provenant de fr.opensuse.org
what I think honorable. jdd
On 5/10/06, jdd jdd@dodin.org wrote:
Martin Jambon wrote: .> "sandbox effect" seems to apply. It took approximately 6 months since the
opening of the site to get honorable Google results
I don't know how you qualify to "honorable". The site fr.opensuse.org is open since February (3 month) and a site search shows:
site:fr.opensuse.org
Résultats 1 - 10 sur un total d'environ 36 800 provenant de fr.opensuse.org
Searching using the site: prefix only looks at hits on that site, and therefore shows how extensively the googlebot has crawled the site. It's not hard for a site to come to the top of a list of pages on that site.
Martin's search showed how high his google pagerank would be for an open search of all the sites in google's database for a search phrase of interest. Getting a good google page rank ostensibly means that other web sites with good page ranks are linking to the site.
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Rick DeNatale wrote:
Searching using the site: prefix only looks at hits on that site, and therefore shows how extensively the googlebot has crawled the site.
isn't this the only thing google can do for you?
of interest. Getting a good google page rank ostensibly
means that
other web sites with good page ranks are linking to the site.
yes, but this has little to do with google and much with the others sites :-), and the subject of the post is "google and wikis"
jdd
On Wed, 10 May 2006, jdd wrote:
Rick DeNatale wrote:
Searching using the site: prefix only looks at hits on that site, and therefore shows how extensively the googlebot has crawled the site.
isn't this the only thing google can do for you?
The issue is about people finding what they are looking for, by using sensible keywords.
Today, the Google rank for my search sunk back to page 5 (results 41-50). Not in Yahoo yet but it might follow soon, we will see. Anyway, in the top 20 Google results my site is mentioned 5 times. Maybe the reason why it has no impact on the ranking of the site itself is that several of them are blogs or wikis using the rel=nofollow option in links, but the outcome is irrelevant nonetheless.
of interest. Getting a good google page rank ostensibly
means that
other web sites with good page ranks are linking to the site.
yes, but this has little to do with google and much with the others sites :-), and the subject of the post is "google and wikis"
Right. Now it has changed.
I apologize because my problem probably has nothing to do with MediaWiki in particular.
Martin
-- Martin Jambon, PhD http://martin.jambon.free.fr
Edit http://wikiomics.org, bioinformatics wiki
Martin Jambon wrote:
The issue is about people finding what they are looking for, by using sensible keywords.
are the others hits irrelevants?
I apologize because my problem probably has nothing to do with MediaWiki in particular.
may be, but the subject is important jdd
We've done a *lot* to optimize google results for our sites, you can e-mail me if you would like some help...
On May 10, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Martin Jambon wrote:
On Wed, 10 May 2006, jdd wrote:
Rick DeNatale wrote:
Searching using the site: prefix only looks at hits on that site, and therefore shows how extensively the googlebot has crawled the site.
isn't this the only thing google can do for you?
The issue is about people finding what they are looking for, by using sensible keywords.
Today, the Google rank for my search sunk back to page 5 (results 41-50). Not in Yahoo yet but it might follow soon, we will see. Anyway, in the top 20 Google results my site is mentioned 5 times. Maybe the reason why it has no impact on the ranking of the site itself is that several of them are blogs or wikis using the rel=nofollow option in links, but the outcome is irrelevant nonetheless.
of interest. Getting a good google page rank ostensibly
means that
other web sites with good page ranks are linking to the site.
yes, but this has little to do with google and much with the others sites :-), and the subject of the post is "google and wikis"
Right. Now it has changed.
I apologize because my problem probably has nothing to do with MediaWiki in particular.
Martin
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On 5/9/06, Martin Jambon martin_jambon@emailuser.net wrote:
Sorry if this comes a bit off-topic, but it is an important followup of a thread 3 months ago.
For the record: 3 months ago I was complaining about the bad google ranking of my wiki site (http://wikiomics.org) when looking for "good" keywords (`bioinformatics wiki'). Today (hopefully it will last), it is the first time I see it appear in the top 10 results (ranked 2nd after [[wikipedia:bioinformatics]] in both Google search and Yahoo! search).
So I was not completely wrong in my expectations, and the concept of "sandbox effect" seems to apply. It took approximately 6 months since the opening of the site to get honorable Google results (see the date of one announcement I made at that time: http://www-iphicles.rcsb.org/pdb/lists/pdb-l/200511/003012.html)
As an FYI (since the thread-resurrection was a reply to my post), I did managed to get google sitemaps to work (by disabling rewriting for a moment).
However, Google is still extraordinarily bad at ranking me. This is most likely because I'm no longer directly associated by being a subdomain of another wildly successful site. =/
Also, Google seems to take several years to forget about the previous domain. Heh.
Being linked-to by well-ranked sites is still the way to go. MediaWiki is pretty awful at getting noticed by Google all on its own, probably because of mw's repeat use of certain phrases and links on every page.
I'm also gritting my teeth at how awful its search results are. It claims to be crawling me regularly.. and yet somehow I doubt this.. I have very old caches still listed by Google.
Meh.
hi,
It looks like your site is less than 3 months old. So step #1 would be: just wait. It takes a while -- sometimes 6 months or more -- before Google trusts new sites with a prominent ranking:
google indexed a java program on my newly created website vedant.lath.inonly a few days ago, and the program is at #9 in the search for "sudoku java". vedant.lath.in was made in november or december of 2005. google started indexing it only in january.
and my program has only 2 links from other web pages! both are from setbb.com, a forum for various things. it is a mystery for me how google's pagerank algorithm works.
vedant
On 2/12/06, Gordon Mohr (@ Bitzi) gojomo@bitzi.com wrote:
Martin Jambon wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Matt Morgan wrote:
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
I also noticed serious flaws in the Google results when searching for some wikis. Google seems to have problems with the "wiki" keyword:
Shouldn't a search for `mediawiki wiki' (w/o quotes) return: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki ???
It does, in position #12. And the higher results are mostly reasonable, too.
`mediawiki' alone works, so that's fine, but not expected.
Their secret and proprietary ranking algorithms tell Google that people searching for [mediawiki wiki] should get the other results higher, as compared to plain [mediawiki] results. Tweaking the algorithms to do otherwise might help some cases, but hurt elsewhere. They're optimizing with regard to a lot of variables, so local anomalies aren't surprising. And can we be sure their ordering for [mediawiki wiki] isn't optimal for generating the most satisfied users (or most ad revenue)?
Overall, they seem to be doing great ranking wikis and URLs/content with 'wiki' in them. There's no evidence of any 'flaw'.
I personally have a problem with the wiki I am running: `bioinformatics wiki' should return some link to http://wikiomics.org in the top ten Google results, if not first.
How modest! :) You do appear somewhere around 60-70.
And, you are named in the 'snippet' shown for the #1 Google result, a Wikipedia page, perhaps helped by the way you bumped your site to the very top of the list of related links in an edit January 31st.
So I really don't know what I can do, I was used to much better results from Google for my non-wiki pages, without forcing anything. Does anyone have a similar experience? Any fix?
It looks like your site is less than 3 months old. So step #1 would be: just wait. It takes a while -- sometimes 6 months or more -- before Google trusts new sites with a prominent ranking:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_Effect
Separate from the sandbox effect: as your site gets deeper content, more organic links from diverse sites (not just backlinks you've pushed out yourself), and longer visits from happy users, you should also expect it to find its "true" higher level.
- Gordon
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Now Google has SiteMaps engine (based on xml description of whole site with additional info). Probably, it will be good way to use it through extension.
On 2/12/06, Iliya Kuznetsov chumpa@yandex.ru wrote:
Now Google has SiteMaps engine (based on xml description of whole site with additional info). Probably, it will be good way to use it through extension.
It's not possible for me to use that because I have rewriting and my wiki won't return the proper error code for pages which are not found. =(
Could it be MediaWiki's internal cache of pages? Append &action=purge to URLs of affected pages and see if that sorts it. If so, set $wgCacheEpoch[1] in LocalSettings.php or truncate the objectcache table.
[1] => http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$wgCacheEpoch
Rob Church
On 10/02/06, Matt Morgan minxmertzmomo@gmail.com wrote:
I changed my logo by setting $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php. I believe that's the right way.
It only shows up on some pages. It seems like it likes to show up on editing pages, login pages--pages with forms. It doesn't show up on content pages (when you're only reading them), the main page, etc. When it doesn't show up, I don't see a broken image box or anything, it's just not there.
It doesn't seem to matter what skin I use, and I've been sure to clear cache and restart httpd, etc. It's actually happening the same way in two different installations. In both cases the logos are nice and small; one of them is a png with transparency and the other is a non-transparent png. Any ideas?
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
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On 2/10/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
Could it be MediaWiki's internal cache of pages? Append &action=purge to URLs of affected pages and see if that sorts it. If so, set $wgCacheEpoch[1] in LocalSettings.php
Thanks. Both these methods result in completely blank pages (ie all pages returned blank upon reload). What am I doing wrong?
or truncate the objectcache table.
The objectcache table appeared to be empty to start with, and
use wikidb; truncate table kb_objectcache;
said "0 rows affected." I still don't get the logo on basic pages when I read them (but I do when I edit them).
Any more ideas? Thanks a lot, Matt
[1] => http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:$wgCacheEpoch
Rob Church
On 10/02/06, Matt Morgan minxmertzmomo@gmail.com wrote:
I changed my logo by setting $wgLogo in LocalSettings.php. I believe that's the right way.
It only shows up on some pages. It seems like it likes to show up on editing pages, login pages--pages with forms. It doesn't show up on content pages (when you're only reading them), the main page, etc. When it doesn't show up, I don't see a broken image box or anything, it's just not there.
It doesn't seem to matter what skin I use, and I've been sure to clear cache and restart httpd, etc. It's actually happening the same way in two different installations. In both cases the logos are nice and small; one of them is a png with transparency and the other is a non-transparent png. Any ideas?
Side note: I'm new to MediaWiki, but I'm having a really hard time googling for help. If I include "MediaWiki" in the search string, the results seem to return every third wiki out there, rather than help about MediaWiki. Any tips there?
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Matt Morgan wrote:
On 2/10/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
Could it be MediaWiki's internal cache of pages? Append &action=purge to URLs of affected pages and see if that sorts it. If so, set $wgCacheEpoch[1] in LocalSettings.php
Thanks. Both these methods result in completely blank pages (ie all pages returned blank upon reload). What am I doing wrong?
Usually this means you made a typo in LocalSettings.php and PHP is configured not to display error messages in output.
Check in particular for a missing semicolon at the end of the line.
You can usually override the hidden error messages by putting these lines near the top of LocalSettings.php (*after* the <?php bit!)
ini_set("display_errors", true); error_reporting(E_ALL);
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On 2/14/06, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Matt Morgan wrote:
On 2/10/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
Could it be MediaWiki's internal cache of pages? Append &action=purge to URLs of affected pages and see if that sorts it. If so, set $wgCacheEpoch[1] in LocalSettings.php
Thanks. Both these methods result in completely blank pages (ie all pages returned blank upon reload). What am I doing wrong?
Usually this means you made a typo in LocalSettings.php and PHP is configured not to display error messages in output.
Check in particular for a missing semicolon at the end of the line.
a) I'm sure that was it. b) shame on me; that's the second time I've made that mistake.
Thanks.
You can usually override the hidden error messages by putting these lines near the top of LocalSettings.php (*after* the <?php bit!)
ini_set("display_errors", true); error_reporting(E_ALL);
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On 2/14/06, Matt Morgan minxmertzmomo@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/14/06, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:
Matt Morgan wrote:
On 2/10/06, Rob Church robchur@gmail.com wrote:
Could it be MediaWiki's internal cache of pages? Append &action=purge to URLs of affected pages and see if that sorts it. If so, set $wgCacheEpoch[1] in LocalSettings.php
Thanks. Both these methods result in completely blank pages (ie all pages returned blank upon reload). What am I doing wrong?
Usually this means you made a typo in LocalSettings.php and PHP is configured not to display error messages in output.
Check in particular for a missing semicolon at the end of the line.
a) I'm sure that was it. b) shame on me; that's the second time I've made that mistake.
Thanks.
OK, I repaired the line in LocalSettings.php so that $wgCacheEpoch is '20060215081500', i.e., earlier this morning (either a few minutes ago, or a few hours ago if that's GMT). Recall that eariler I had truncated the objectcache table (which appeared empty to start with).
Still, I only see the logo on pages with forms for data entry. Editing, account creation, etc. Behavior is the same on two different installs, on two different servers (although they are very similar). This is true even for pages I had never viewed and for new pages, created after the Cache Epoch.
Environment in both cases is:
MediaWiki 1.5.6 CentOS 4.2 Linux (almost identical to RHEL4, release 2) Kernel 2.6.9-22.0.1.EL Apache 2.0.52 PHP 4.3.9 MySQL 4.1.12 TurkMMCache installed (v. 4.3.9_2.4.6 ?)
Browser is Firefox 1.07, although it seems to be a server-side issue (delivered pages make no reference to the logo image).
I checked in both installs, and the *_objectcache table is empty in both cases. The only other similarity between these installs, and perhaps some others, is that I did not set the $wgLogo first thing, but rather ran the setup and viewed and created some pages before adding the logo.
Any other possibilities? Thanks!
Hi all,
This is only my second day using mediawiki, so pardon me if my question sounds too basic or if the information is clearly available somewhere (i looked, but didn't find it).
I'd like to change the links in the navigation pane, more specifically, to remove the "Community Portal", "Current Events", "Random page" and "Donations" links, and to add some links of my own.
I found these in the Languages.php file, but when I remove them from there, and restart Apache, nothing changes.
Any help will be much appreciated, Leandro Reis
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You need to edit your index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar page.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Leandro Reis wrote:
Hi all,
This is only my second day using mediawiki, so pardon me if my question sounds too basic or if the information is clearly available somewhere (i looked, but didn't find it).
I'd like to change the links in the navigation pane, more specifically, to remove the "Community Portal", "Current Events", "Random page" and "Donations" links, and to add some links of my own.
I found these in the Languages.php file, but when I remove them from there, and restart Apache, nothing changes.
Any help will be much appreciated, Leandro Reis
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I tried that but the edit tab is not active, instead I see a "View source" page with the following message:
"This page has been locked to prevent editing; there are a number of reasons why this may be so, please see Project:Protected page".
The Project:Protected page is now available for me. Looks like I may not have the right administrative rights?
From: pflores@mcs.anl.gov (Pedro Flores) Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how do you edit the navigation pane? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:20:18 -0600
You need to edit your index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar page.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Leandro Reis wrote:
Hi all,
This is only my second day using mediawiki, so pardon me if my question sounds too basic or if the information is clearly available somewhere (i looked, but didn't find it).
I'd like to change the links in the navigation pane, more specifically,
to
remove the "Community Portal", "Current Events", "Random page" and "Donations" links, and to add some links of my own.
I found these in the Languages.php file, but when I remove them from
there,
and restart Apache, nothing changes.
Any help will be much appreciated, Leandro Reis
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A WikiSysop (by default; you may have changed it) was created upon installing your MediaWiki. Use it to appoint rights.
Leandro Reis wrote:
I tried that but the edit tab is not active, instead I see a "View source" page with the following message:
"This page has been locked to prevent editing; there are a number of reasons why this may be so, please see Project:Protected page".
The Project:Protected page is now available for me. Looks like I may not have the right administrative rights?
From: pflores@mcs.anl.gov (Pedro Flores) Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how do you edit the navigation pane? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:20:18 -0600
You need to edit your index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar page.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Leandro Reis wrote:
Hi all,
This is only my second day using mediawiki, so pardon me if my question sounds too basic or if the information is clearly available somewhere (i looked, but didn't find it).
I'd like to change the links in the navigation pane, more specifically,
to
remove the "Community Portal", "Current Events", "Random page" and "Donations" links, and to add some links of my own.
I found these in the Languages.php file, but when I remove them from
there,
and restart Apache, nothing changes.
Any help will be much appreciated, Leandro Reis
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Log in with the superuser account created during installation. For details on *what* to change on the page, see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar.
Rob Church
On 16/02/06, Leandro Reis lreis04@hotmail.com wrote:
I tried that but the edit tab is not active, instead I see a "View source" page with the following message:
"This page has been locked to prevent editing; there are a number of reasons why this may be so, please see Project:Protected page".
The Project:Protected page is now available for me. Looks like I may not have the right administrative rights?
From: pflores@mcs.anl.gov (Pedro Flores) Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list mediawiki-l@Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how do you edit the navigation pane? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:20:18 -0600
You need to edit your index.php/MediaWiki:Sidebar page.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 01:11:09AM +0000, Leandro Reis wrote:
Hi all,
This is only my second day using mediawiki, so pardon me if my question sounds too basic or if the information is clearly available somewhere (i looked, but didn't find it).
I'd like to change the links in the navigation pane, more specifically,
to
remove the "Community Portal", "Current Events", "Random page" and "Donations" links, and to add some links of my own.
I found these in the Languages.php file, but when I remove them from
there,
and restart Apache, nothing changes.
Any help will be much appreciated, Leandro Reis
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