Morning!
I am building a web site for a family member who is in the process of completing a PhD and MediaWiki looks like the ideal CMS to use as they will be able to update their own web site (delegation is always important :-)
Two questions:
1) There may be a need to have certain pages in multiple languages. Is the best way to do this for a small site is to add a language identifier to the page title eg:
here is the CV in [[CV.en|English]] or in [[CV.nl|Dutch]].
Is there a way to do this and still have a more readable title eg "English CV" rathern than "CV.en"?
2) I see from the LocalSettings.php that it is possible to prevent access to certain pages for users who are not logged in. Do I need to list all the pages I want blocked or is it possible to do wildcards eg internal*
TIA
James
On Nov 15, 2004, at 3:28 AM, James Gardiner wrote:
There may be a need to have certain pages in multiple languages. Is the best way to do this for a small site is to add a language identifier to the page title eg:
here is the CV in [[CV.en|English]] or in [[CV.nl|Dutch]].
Is there a way to do this and still have a more readable title eg "English CV" rathern than "CV.en"?
You can simply call the page "English CV" if you like, but the page's title is going to appear just so in the URL. It's a wiki, not a general purpose CMS, so sometimes this is a compromise.
- I see from the LocalSettings.php that it is possible to prevent access to certain pages for users who are not logged in. Do I need to list all the pages I want blocked or is it possible to do wildcards eg internal*
Actually, you need to explicitly list all the pages you want to allow access to. I don't really recommend using this mode, but if it does what you want it's there...
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
- I see from the LocalSettings.php that it is possible to prevent access to certain pages for users who are not logged in. Do I need to list all the pages I want blocked or is it possible to do wildcards eg internal*
Actually, you need to explicitly list all the pages you want to allow access to. I don't really recommend using this mode, but if it does what you want it's there...
Does MediaWiki have any concept of groups? ie Would it be possible to define different groups and give different page's ownerships to a certain group so that only users that belonged to that group could edit it? Maybe it's just my Unix background but I think the concept of user and group permissions is a powerful one that is beneficial to use.
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:01:12AM -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
You can simply call the page "English CV" if you like, but the page's title is going to appear just so in the URL. It's a wiki, not a general purpose CMS, so sometimes this is a compromise.
Noted. The compromises are in the right direction.
- I see from the LocalSettings.php that it is possible to prevent
access to certain pages for users who are not logged in. Do I need to list all the pages I want blocked or is it possible to do wildcards eg internal*
Actually, you need to explicitly list all the pages you want to allow access to. I don't really recommend using this mode, but if it does what you want it's there...
Ah, not as usuable as I first thought. I am sure there are many wishlists in that area.
Thanks for your swift response.
Regards
James
You'd better look at twiki first before deciding on using mediawiki if you need good a permission control. But the formatting rules in twiki look stupid somehow.
A more general guideline for choosing wiki as a CMS can be found at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki_software#How_to_choose_a_wiki_engine
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 16:48:33 +0000, James Gardiner james@womble.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 05:01:12AM -0800, Brion Vibber wrote:
You can simply call the page "English CV" if you like, but the page's title is going to appear just so in the URL. It's a wiki, not a general purpose CMS, so sometimes this is a compromise.
Noted. The compromises are in the right direction.
- I see from the LocalSettings.php that it is possible to prevent
access to certain pages for users who are not logged in. Do I need to list all the pages I want blocked or is it possible to do wildcards eg internal*
Actually, you need to explicitly list all the pages you want to allow access to. I don't really recommend using this mode, but if it does what you want it's there...
Ah, not as usuable as I first thought. I am sure there are many wishlists in that area.
Thanks for your swift response.
Regards
James _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
On Nov 20, 2004, at 10:20 AM, Kiss All wrote:
You'd better look at twiki first before deciding on using mediawiki if you need good a permission control. But the formatting rules in twiki look stupid somehow.
If you are using TWiki or do so in the future, remember to list yourself at http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/TWikiInstallation in the hopes they notify you about security fixes, or else watch this page like a hawk: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiSecurityAlerts
You won't find a hint of it on their main page, but there's a *remote shell exploit* in TWiki's search mechanism, for which a patch was released a few days ago. If anyone on this list is also running a TWiki or knowns someone who is, please make sure you install the fix!
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Michael wrote:
Does MediaWiki have any concept of groups?
Yes, it has.
ie Would it be possible to define different groups and give different page's ownerships to a certain group so that only users that belonged to that group could edit it? Maybe it's just my Unix background but I think the concept of user and group permissions is a powerful one that is beneficial to use.
It's not exactly "ownership", but you can protect a number of pages in a way that to edit it you'd need to be in group X, or you can restrict editing on a namespace to some group, so each group would edit on its own namespace.
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