Hi everybody!
I'm in the process of manually converting a number PDF documents to wiki pages. The work is mostly straightforward copy&paste.
There is one feature of the original PDFs document however that is hard to convert.
To simplify the issue, imagine that document has a two columns layout, one column quite wide and the other, much narrower (say 85%/15%) width.
The wide column is full of normal text with some structure (i.e. sections, paragraph and lists). The narrow column has small sparse notes (i.e. dates and people's names) that relate to specific lines of text in the wide column: in the PDF a note is at the same height as the line of text it relates to.
Obviously, in a static PDF this works, but in a browser window the text in the wide column will reflow depending on the size and ratio of the window.
Therefore, how do I ensure that the note in the small column remains at the same level with the portion of text it relates to? Effectively, how do I anchor the y-position of an element in a column of a wikitable to the y-position of, say, a specific word in another column of the same wiki table?
Kind Regards,
Manu
The best I can come up with (Not using tables, but div based layout). 85% main column 2% gap 13% second column
<div style="width:85%"> Some random text. More random text....
Next paragraph. Yadda Yadda TEXT WE ARE ALIGNING AGAINST <span class="note" style="position:absolute;left:102.3%;width:15.2%">Some note. Here.</span> .... </div>
(Keep in mind the percentags on the span are relative to the width of the parent container so you have to divide by .85. The left offset is .87/.85 and the note width is .13/.85). Note, if two notes are too close together, they may overlap in a really ugly fashion.
If you're ok with just aligning on a paragraph basis, using css float:right; would be easier, and boxes would definitely not overlap if two boxes are too close.
-- Bawolff
On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Emanuele D'Arrigo manu3d@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everybody!
I'm in the process of manually converting a number PDF documents to wiki pages. The work is mostly straightforward copy&paste.
There is one feature of the original PDFs document however that is hard to convert.
To simplify the issue, imagine that document has a two columns layout, one column quite wide and the other, much narrower (say 85%/15%) width.
The wide column is full of normal text with some structure (i.e. sections, paragraph and lists). The narrow column has small sparse notes (i.e. dates and people's names) that relate to specific lines of text in the wide column: in the PDF a note is at the same height as the line of text it relates to.
Obviously, in a static PDF this works, but in a browser window the text in the wide column will reflow depending on the size and ratio of the window.
Therefore, how do I ensure that the note in the small column remains at the same level with the portion of text it relates to? Effectively, how do I anchor the y-position of an element in a column of a wikitable to the y-position of, say, a specific word in another column of the same wiki table?
Kind Regards,
Manu _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Semantically, it seems like using the <ref> and {{cite}} markup found in Wikipedia would be a better fit, although it won't preserve the appearance of the PDF document.
- --Bob.
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite
On 2017-11-11 09:35 AM, Emanuele D'Arrigo wrote:
Hi everybody!
I'm in the process of manually converting a number PDF documents to wiki pages. The work is mostly straightforward copy&paste.
There is one feature of the original PDFs document however that is hard to convert.
To simplify the issue, imagine that document has a two columns layout, one column quite wide and the other, much narrower (say 85%/15%) width.
The wide column is full of normal text with some structure (i.e. sections, paragraph and lists). The narrow column has small sparse notes (i.e. dates and people's names) that relate to specific lines of text in the wide column: in the PDF a note is at the same height as the line of text it relates to.
Obviously, in a static PDF this works, but in a browser window the text in the wide column will reflow depending on the size and ratio of the window.
Therefore, how do I ensure that the note in the small column remains at the same level with the portion of text it relates to? Effectively, how do I anchor the y-position of an element in a column of a wikitable to the y-position of, say, a specific word in another column of the same wiki table?
Kind Regards,
Manu _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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Thank you Bryan, Brian and Bob for your suggestions.
Indeed a table-based solution, with hidden borders, is something I considered Bryan, but as you rightly point out, it would add a lot of unnecessary rows to the table. This is undesirable a) because many of my users are inexperienced and greatly appreciate the simplest wikitext b) it would badly reflow the text when the browser window is resized.
Brian, your solution is worth a try. It would clutter the text with span tags and my users wouldn't be particularly happy with that, but the solution I'm currently resorting to (see answer to Bob) is not much different.
Bob, indeed using references and cite was the first thing I tried even though it meant abandoning the original document format. Eventually I switched from references to the SimpleTooltip extension. This way the information contained in the tips is available in-context and I can still use references/footnotes when appropriate.
Thank you all again for your answers.
Kind regards,
Manu
On 11 November 2017 at 15:35, Emanuele D'Arrigo manu3d@gmail.com wrote:
Hi everybody!
I'm in the process of manually converting a number PDF documents to wiki pages. The work is mostly straightforward copy&paste.
There is one feature of the original PDFs document however that is hard to convert.
To simplify the issue, imagine that document has a two columns layout, one column quite wide and the other, much narrower (say 85%/15%) width.
The wide column is full of normal text with some structure (i.e. sections, paragraph and lists). The narrow column has small sparse notes (i.e. dates and people's names) that relate to specific lines of text in the wide column: in the PDF a note is at the same height as the line of text it relates to.
Obviously, in a static PDF this works, but in a browser window the text in the wide column will reflow depending on the size and ratio of the window.
Therefore, how do I ensure that the note in the small column remains at the same level with the portion of text it relates to? Effectively, how do I anchor the y-position of an element in a column of a wikitable to the y-position of, say, a specific word in another column of the same wiki table?
Kind Regards,
Manu
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