On 30/11/05, Steven Dick <kg4ydw(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Clearly, you didn't read what I said, and you
Yes, I know about that page, yes I find it helpful, but it is not enough.
OK, no need for accusations - I read what you said, and I know what
Special:Allmessages is and does, but I misunderstood what you were
I *thought* you were talking about pages which were literally *part
of* the interface; these should all be in the MediaWiki: namespace, be
listed in Special:Allmessages, and have defaults built into the PHP
files and entered into the database on install. Any exceptions to this
are, AFAIK, bugs - there may be some due to things which predate that
system, for instance, but they can and should be fixed.
I now realise that what you were actually talking about is pages which
are *linked to* from various places in the default interface messages,
and you are quite right that there is no way of automatically listing
It does NOT list [[Protected_page_guidelines]] which
is linked from
[[protectedpagewarning]]. This is one example only.
You mean [[Project:Protected page guidelines]], linked from the
default [[MediaWiki:protectedpagewarning]]; kinda pedantic, but
important were you/someone to actually write up the kind of list
Also, there are a large number of messages in that
page, most of which are
OK and do not need much tweaking for me. My complaint is that I'd like a
list of pages that DO need tweaking, mostly because they don't yet exist.
Well, like I say, actual UI messages should all have defaults - even
if there is no MediaWiki:... page for something, the software will
fall back to the version in the PHP source, so there is no real need
for an extra list of those. The point about pages linked to *from*
those defaults is a separate one, and any list of those that "need
tweaking" will be somewhat subjective - though that doesn't rule out
it being useful.
On 30/11/05, Arthur Guy <Arthur(a)assys.net> wrote:
I certainly agree that a list of pages with links but
no content that
have yet to be created would be useful; this needs someone who is
familiar with the system to write them all down or someone to setup a
new site and just go through everything.
This sounds like a rather good idea - and as you say, one which anyone
with a fresh install could do. In fact, it would probably be as simple
as copying the list from [[Special:Wantedpages]] on a new install and
editting it around a little; if that doesn't work, searching the
source of Special:Allmessages to spot redlinks ought to be pretty easy
too. If anyone fancies doing this, and putting the result on
?) I'm sure it will be
appreciated by others.
Rowan Collins BSc