At 00:26 02/02/2015, Jay R wrote:
>I've been creating a job description for making a non-profit ad-free
>website which will allow people to setup their own communities where they
>can work on solving problems relating to specific areas. Different tools
>will be provided to them including a custom-built task management system, a
>forum and a wiki.
I am working on a similar Libre concept I call a cyberagora.
Unfortunately in French (http://cybagora.org).
The idea is the smartest conviality afficient support of "agoras"
(cities, wg, communities, personal windows to the world, mathematical
concept, etc.)
>The whole website will be "wiki" based i.e., people will collaboratively
>work together and edit task items which are not Wiki pages. For example it
>may be a row in a database of another table.
My idea is of a flexible federation of SQLite based mediawikis (as a
start), and eventually a cloud of "intellipages" (i.e. smart
independent json based wikipages) virtually gathered together through
a DDDS
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Delegation_Discovery_System)..
This way I have no hosting to consider and maximum flexibility.
>Anyone can fill out a form and a new community is created along with a wiki
>of their own. So each community will have access to its own set of wiki
>pages. They may have 5 or 20 or 100 pages. In the long term there may be
>100's or 1000's of communities if the website is a success. The URL of a
>wiki could be something like: en.Solveissues123.org/Community6543/Wiki
><http://en.Solveissues.org/Community6543/Wiki>
>The issues are:
>(1) User database. I'd like to keep a common user database so people can
>login once and edit other community wikis.
I suggest a different approach: by capacities. Can access an
intellipage only those with the necessary capacity. They acquire the
capacities through a DDDS service (like the DNS) for a limited duration.
>(2) Interlinking between various wiki communities
>(3) Sidebar content for each community so they have their own navigation.
>(4) Communities may be set up in their own language so a wiki may
>have its own language.
>(5) There may be customization for aesthetics.
OK for all of this. This is part, from my POV, of the VGN (Virtual
Glocal Network) contextual parametring (the participating sites to a
relational space).
My idea is as follows:
- the intellipages follows a common formating JSON standard.
- they are registered by their owner in one or several relational spaces
- these relational spaces are supported by people's VGN with their
local global or global local constraints (like a format, verification
tools, Quality control; langages, etc.).
>It will be like Wikia but I have to reserve the sub-domains for languages.
>I want to use Mediawiki and it will have to be customized to a large
>extent.
>I have different options:
>
>1. Use one Mediawiki for the whole website (so one database). Let people
>separate their community wikis by using different page titles for example
>[[Community6543/Title of Page]]. They would have to use a similar notation
>to keep their categories separate. There will be one user database so
>that's good since anyone can edit a page from any community.
>The issue are the sidebar and other navigational links and language
>options. I could get the installation fully customized and change it so
>they need to edit [[Community6543/Sidebar]] to show their own navigation.
>
>2. Use one mediawiki for each community. They can all use the same user
>database ($wgSharedDB). Not sure how to manage interlinking here. Any other
>issues I need to think about? This may be a good solution since a community
>may have its own language.
>
>3. Use a 3rd light weight wiki software that provides basic wiki functions
>(editing, page history, diffs). Is there anything like that available or
>would it need to be created from scratch?
This is a good question :-)
The best would be syntaxic/use compatibility with wikipedia. So the
best products of the personal/group wikis could be copied to wikipedia.
>A sidenote: Any general advice on how to manage the individual forum
>creation as well? I would not like to use the talk pages as forums but
>rather an independent traditional forum for each community.
IMHO you need everything you can findimagine (blogs, mailing list,
fora, heuristic maps, etc.) and be totally language independent
(except js as the bowsers' language).
>Any advice would be appreciated. Or if you know where I can get
>professional help in creating the job description for this website let me
>know. I can then post the job at a freelancing website to have the website
>made.
Not so easy. I would advise for each tool to look first at all the
parameters being supported (mediawiki, wordpress, etc.) to make sure
you do not forget any of them. Then to compare them from one tool to
another and establish your own common parameter tables. Then review
each functionality in a multiple tools context, to see what can be
aggregated or extended.
From there you will need to design a system architecture taking care
of replications/security/backup/restorations and of the mix of the
different databases (DDDS, Semantics) included. At the same time you
need to imagine how you can make it commercial (business and
non-profit alike) and support extensions by third parties (API).
Then, not so much to write a job desciption, but a protocol, like an
RFC. Then to start with a prototype, and test it. Then to add
foreseen and new features you will have discovered from experimentation.
Just half a cent, for a big project.
jfc
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I've been creating a job description for making a non-profit ad-free
website which will allow people to setup their own communities where they
can work on solving problems relating to specific areas. Different tools
will be provided to them including a custom-built task management system, a
forum and a wiki.
The whole website will be "wiki" based i.e., people will collaboratively
work together and edit task items which are not Wiki pages. For example it
may be a row in a database of another table.
Anyone can fill out a form and a new community is created along with a wiki
of their own. So each community will have access to its own set of wiki
pages. They may have 5 or 20 or 100 pages. In the long term there may be
100's or 1000's of communities if the website is a success. The URL of a
wiki could be something like: en.Solveissues123.org/Community6543/Wiki
<http://en.Solveissues.org/Community6543/Wiki>
The issues are:
(1) User database. I'd like to keep a common user database so people can
login once and edit other community wikis.
(2) Interlinking between various wiki communities
(3) Sidebar content for each community so they have their own navigation.
(4) Communities may be set up in their own language so a wiki may have its
own language.
(5) There may be customization for aesthetics.
It will be like Wikia but I have to reserve the sub-domains for languages.
I want to use Mediawiki and it will have to be customized to a large
extent.
I have different options:
1. Use one Mediawiki for the whole website (so one database). Let people
separate their community wikis by using different page titles for example
[[Community6543/Title of Page]]. They would have to use a similar notation
to keep their categories separate. There will be one user database so
that's good since anyone can edit a page from any community.
The issue are the sidebar and other navigational links and language
options. I could get the installation fully customized and change it so
they need to edit [[Community6543/Sidebar]] to show their own navigation.
2. Use one mediawiki for each community. They can all use the same user
database ($wgSharedDB). Not sure how to manage interlinking here. Any other
issues I need to think about? This may be a good solution since a community
may have its own language.
3. Use a 3rd light weight wiki software that provides basic wiki functions
(editing, page history, diffs). Is there anything like that available or
would it need to be created from scratch?
A sidenote: Any general advice on how to manage the individual forum
creation as well? I would not like to use the talk pages as forums but
rather an independent traditional forum for each community.
Any advice would be appreciated. Or if you know where I can get
professional help in creating the job description for this website let me
know. I can then post the job at a freelancing website to have the website
made.
Jay
Hi,
I've added Cite and refToolbar to my Wiki but they aren't being loaded.
Cite was automatically in my extension directory immediately after
installation, so what I did was I added
require_once "$IP/extensions/Cite/SpecialCite.php";
To near the end of LocalSettings.php and while cite appears @
Special:Version it does not appear to be working. For example, citation
templates I've added to my Wiki are not organized into footnotes when
contained between <ref> </ref> tags and these tags are, in fact, left
unparsed in articles.
As for refToolbar I added this extension (via copy-pasting the files
listed here
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RefToolbar#Related_scripts]
into their respective MediaWiki namespace pages (including adding
* refToolbar[ResourceLoader|default|dependencies=user.options,mediawiki.legacy.wikibits]|refToolbar.js
* refToolbarBase[ResourceLoader|hidden|rights=hidden]|refToolbarBase.js
to MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition). <gadget-refToolbar> appears @
Special:Preferences under Gadgets and is ticked.
Thanks for your time,
Brenton