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Signing text automatically in discussion page
by Bernard＠bernardHulsman.nl 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Tech Geek, that is standard behaviour of WikiForum http://manual.wikiation.nl/Level_2_wikiforum It is used in its own namespace but could be used instead of the discussion page as well. It give much more structure and enforce respectation the time depending structure of the thread. It is propriety software. It is part of Wikibox Blue of Wikiation This very valueble for my Organisation. I have many doubts, but maybe I consider to make it Open Source. I will start a new thread about this. Bernard Hulsman

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Some extension functions only working for users logged in
by Frank Sundermeyer 18 Jan '10

18 Jan '10

Hi, I have got a problem with some extension (CategoryTree, ParserFunctions) only working for users that are logged in. If not logged in, the plain tags are displayed (CategoryTree) or the output is completely garbled. I can rule out that any settings in Localsettings.php are causing this error (have tested it on a test instance). I have also tried the latest snapshot of CategoryTree from SVN. It is also no browser or caching issue. The interesting thing is that Special:Version also differs for users logged in / not logged in. Among others, <categorytree> is only listed under "Parser extension tags" when logged in: http://wiki.opensuse.org/images/5/56/Logged-in1.png http://wiki.opensuse.org/images/1/18/Not-logged-in1.png Any hints what could cause this error? MediaWiki version: 1.15.1 PHP version: 5.2.6 OS: Linux -- Thanks Frank Frank Sundermeyer, Technical Writer, Documentation SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0, Fax: +49-911-7417755; http://www.opensuse.org/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg) "Reality is always controlled by the people who are most insane" Dogbert

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Change Design for single page?
by T4b 17 Jan '10

17 Jan '10

Is it possible (maybe with an extension?) to change the design for a single page? T4b

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] ToC spanning pages
by Giuseppe Briotti 15 Jan '10

15 Jan '10

Well, if such pages are all subpages of the first one, probably this can be done by a template that use the __TOC___ statement for the main page and a Dynamic Page List extension to obtain the subpages toc.. difficult to do but not impossible... G. -- Giuseppe Briotti g.briotti(a)gmail.com "Alme Sol, curru nitido diem qui promis et celas aliusque et idem nasceris, possis nihil urbe Roma visere maius." (Orazio)

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ToC spanning pages
by Anne Wilson 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

A user would like a single ToC for his pages Application Application/Configuration Application/Adding Components I realise that he will have to consider the length of such a ToC, but although I feel it should be perfectly possible, I can't find any explanation of how to do it. Could someone either explain it to me or point me to the right reading to understand it (preferrably both :-)) Anne -- KDE Community Working Group New to KDE Software? - get help from http://userbase.kde.org

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Welcome to mediawiki-l (weekly posting)
by river＠nightshade.toolserver.org 14 Jan '10

14 Jan '10

Welcome to mediawiki-l. This mailing list exists for discussion and questions about the MediaWiki software[0]. Important MediaWiki-related announcements (such as new versions) are also posted to this list. Other resources. If you only wish to receive announcements, you should subscribe to mediawiki-announce[1] instead. MediaWiki development discussion, and all Wikimedia technical questions, should be directed to the wikitech-l[2] mailing list. Several other MediaWiki-related lists exist: - mediawiki-api[5] for API discussions, - mediawiki-enterprise[6] for discussion of MediaWiki in the enterprise, - mediawiki-cvs[7] for notification of commits to the Subversion repository, - mediawiki-i18n[8] for discussion of MediaWiki internationalisation support, - wikibugs-l[9] for notification of changes to the bug tracker. List administrivia (unsubscribing, list archives). To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit [12]. Archives of previous postings can be found at [3]. This list is also gatewayed to the Gmane NNTP server[4], which you can use to read and post to the list. Posting to the list. Before posting to this list, please read the MediaWiki FAQ[10]. Many common questions are answered here. You may also search the list archives to see if your question has been asked before. Please try to ask your question in a way that enables people to answer you. Provide all relevant details, explain your problem clearly, etc. You may wish to read [13], which explains how to ask questions well. To post to the list, send mail to <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>. This is a public list, so you should not include confidential information in mails you send. When replying to an existing thread, use the "Reply" or "Followup" feature of your mail client, so that clients that understand threading can sort your message properly. When quoting other messages, please use the "inline" quoting style[11], for clarity. When creating a new thread, do not reply to an existing message and change the subject. This will confuse peoples' mail readers, and will result in fewer people reading your mail. Instead, compose a new message for your post. Messages posted to the list have the "Reply-To" header set to the mailing list, which means that by default, replies will go to the entire list. If you are posting a reply which is only interesting to the original poster, and not the list in general, you should change the reply to only go to that person. This avoids cluttering the list with irrelevant traffic. About this message. This message is posted to the list once per week by <river(a)wikimedia.org>. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this mailing. References. [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/ [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ [4] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [5] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [6] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [7] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs [8] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n [9] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l [10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Inline_replying [12] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [13] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Editing discussion-sites but not articles
by Rudeladmin 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hello, We're using MediaWiki in our company as an informationsystem to our customers. We collect manuals, FAQs and other information from our products in the wiki and all our customers got a user to read this articles. All customers are only able to read, employees also can create and edit articles. Now we want to use the discussion-sites from the articles to get feedbacks from our customers. The problem is: i can't enable the edit-permission for customers to protect our articles, but without this permission customers are not able to edit the discussion-sites. Customers may not get the edit-permission to guarantee the quality of the information inside. How can i solve this conflict!? Are there any extended permissions for discussion-sites?! Thanks a lot for your help! Dennis Wolf Answers in German language are also welcome ;-)

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"Old" text in articles
by Rudeladmin 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

Hello, I edited an article-text directly in the database via a script from a SQL-Database-Manager. When i select the article inside the wiki it shows me the "old" article. After klicking the Edit-Button the "new", extern edited, Text is shown in the edit-interface. After storing the article the "new" text is also shown in the wiki. Why is the new text primal after the "wiki-internal" storing visible and not directly after the "wiki-external" scripting?! Thanks for your help, Dennis Wolf

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postgres upgrade
by Scott Brunza 13 Jan '10

13 Jan '10

I'm in the middle of a server migration, and decided to upgrade my instance of mediawiki and postgres to versions 1.15.1 and 8.3.8 (stock SLES11 version) respectively. pg_dumps, restores, and db admin is nothing new to me, but I can't for the life of me get my instance (MW 1.9.3 and pg 8.1.11) into the new postgres. I've even tried moving from 8.1 to 8.2 as an intermediate step before going to 8.3. Nothing is working for me. Can someone clarify the steps for me? I have read the Manual:Upgrading_Postgres page. -B- --- Let us all bask in television's warm glowing warming glow --- Scott Brunza 860.326.3637 scottso(a)sonalysts.com This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be proprietary and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender.

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multiple language wiki
by wen miao 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

Hello, there. I'm now working on my lab's website using mediawiki 1.15.1 on an ubuntu 9.10 system. The original website works quite well. But I want to setup a copy of the original website with a language different from the original one. How can I do this with the simplest way ? Thanks ~

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.png image text font mis-scaled
by Mike 12 Jan '10

12 Jan '10

I've run into a problem with images I'm converting from another source. The most accurate intermediate format seamed to be .png, however; I've run into a repeated problem with some images display. On certain images, some of the text rendered has been misscaled and is inconsistant with the surrounding image. The text is correctly located on the displayed image. At first, I thought this was a problem with the software generating the .png file from its source. These are ChemDraw format images and are being converted by ChemDraw. In further looking at the intermediate, I find I can correctly view the .png file with other windows utilities without the font scale problem. These utilities Paint and Windows Photo Gallery also have no problem scaling the image. I have also attempted enabling .svg image format hoping it would be a convenient intermediate, but; the added work to support browsers without native .svg gave me pause. Can anyone familiar with the .png scaling process comment on why (only certain) text in .png files does not scale properly? I'm using MediaWiki 1.15.1. Thanks for any help.

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download a database dump
by OrzzrO 10 Jan '10

10 Jan '10

I want to download a database dump of wikipedia in English version from http://download.wikipedia.org/. But it's to large. I have not enough resource to download and process it. And I only need part of the database. Where can I download a subset of the database dump ? Thanks.

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] Recent Changes shows nothing!
by Daniel Bishop 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

First question: What is your $wgRCMaxAge set to? By default changes are only kept in the recentchanges table for 7 days. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgRCMaxAge Second question: Have you recently changed any settings on your wiki or run any of the maintenance scripts? Otherwise I would suggest checking your server logs. Regards, Daniel -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bill Taylor Sent: 09 January 2010 04:15 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Recent Changes shows nothing! When I click on Recent Changes as of this morning, I see only today's activity. a new user added joined the wiki, and a page was updated. No matter what I do to look back in time, I don't see anything, even when I tell it to look back 300 days and 500 edits. There should be a full year worth of edits there. I could see them yesterday, but not today. I am running Mediawiki 1.15.1, PHP 5.2.6, and MySQL 4.1.16 Did the new user hack me somehow, or what? He looks like a spammer, but a very mild one. Bill Taylor _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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extract user account from database
by HKairpost 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

Hello, I'm planing to copy my mediawiki user accounts to another system. I'd need to get the passwords either in md5 hash or in clear. I checked out the manual [1], password aren't stored as simple MD5 hash, an additional string is added. Is there a way I can convert them into regular hash of the password? Many thanks, HKairpost [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:User_table

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accessing wikipedia
by OrzzrO 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

Hello, In my project, I need to access and get the contents in Wikipedia,and then build a inverted index using these contents. But I don't know how to get the contents in Wikipedia efficiently and easily. What can I do ? Are there any APIs ? Thank you for your time and help. ===================== best wishes!

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memory size exhausted while diff
by Florian Effenberger 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

Hello, I have a problem with the following wiki page: http://www.oxidforge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Languages/Slovenian&curid=180… It always throws an error message at me. I tried raising the PHP limit to 128 MB and 60 seconds, as well as disabling all extensions, but to no avail. The script seems to run forever, consuming lots of CPU power. I also tried activating the debug log file, which didn't work out neither. The original page at http://www.oxidforge.org/wiki/index.php?title=Languages/Slovenian is a bit large, but I doubt it is too large. Did I hit a bug? Is it a misconfiguration? Thanks for any advice, Florian

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Recent Changes shows nothing!
by Bill Taylor 09 Jan '10

09 Jan '10

When I click on Recent Changes as of this morning, I see only today's activity. a new user added joined the wiki, and a page was updated. No matter what I do to look back in time, I don't see anything, even when I tell it to look back 300 days and 500 edits. There should be a full year worth of edits there. I could see them yesterday, but not today. I am running Mediawiki 1.15.1, PHP 5.2.6, and MySQL 4.1.16 Did the new user hack me somehow, or what? He looks like a spammer, but a very mild one. Bill Taylor

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Welcome to mediawiki-l (weekly posting)
by river＠nightshade.toolserver.org 07 Jan '10

07 Jan '10

Welcome to mediawiki-l. This mailing list exists for discussion and questions about the MediaWiki software[0]. Important MediaWiki-related announcements (such as new versions) are also posted to this list. Other resources. If you only wish to receive announcements, you should subscribe to mediawiki-announce[1] instead. MediaWiki development discussion, and all Wikimedia technical questions, should be directed to the wikitech-l[2] mailing list. Several other MediaWiki-related lists exist: - mediawiki-api[5] for API discussions, - mediawiki-enterprise[6] for discussion of MediaWiki in the enterprise, - mediawiki-cvs[7] for notification of commits to the Subversion repository, - mediawiki-i18n[8] for discussion of MediaWiki internationalisation support, - wikibugs-l[9] for notification of changes to the bug tracker. List administrivia (unsubscribing, list archives). To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit [12]. Archives of previous postings can be found at [3]. This list is also gatewayed to the Gmane NNTP server[4], which you can use to read and post to the list. Posting to the list. Before posting to this list, please read the MediaWiki FAQ[10]. Many common questions are answered here. You may also search the list archives to see if your question has been asked before. Please try to ask your question in a way that enables people to answer you. Provide all relevant details, explain your problem clearly, etc. You may wish to read [13], which explains how to ask questions well. To post to the list, send mail to <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>. This is a public list, so you should not include confidential information in mails you send. When replying to an existing thread, use the "Reply" or "Followup" feature of your mail client, so that clients that understand threading can sort your message properly. When quoting other messages, please use the "inline" quoting style[11], for clarity. When creating a new thread, do not reply to an existing message and change the subject. This will confuse peoples' mail readers, and will result in fewer people reading your mail. Instead, compose a new message for your post. Messages posted to the list have the "Reply-To" header set to the mailing list, which means that by default, replies will go to the entire list. If you are posting a reply which is only interesting to the original poster, and not the list in general, you should change the reply to only go to that person. This avoids cluttering the list with irrelevant traffic. About this message. This message is posted to the list once per week by <river(a)wikimedia.org>. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this mailing. References. [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/ [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ [4] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [5] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [6] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [7] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs [8] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n [9] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l [10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Inline_replying [12] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [13] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Two styles of patches for bug 4421
by Rob Lanphier 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

Hi folks, I've included what I'm hoping is the final version of my patch for bug 4421 ("Image file extension should not be part of the name"): https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4421 Its a rather large patch, so I've included two versions of it: 1. Big hairy patch with everything in it 2. Broken up into smaller independent patches as best that I could in a tarball w/README Any strong preference for one over the other (or a third option)? Also, if it's appropriate to request svn access and it's still a good time to check stuff in, I'm happy to start checking in the safer portions of this patch. Rob

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Subcategory list not showing on Category first page
by Obsessive MathsFreak 06 Jan '10

06 Jan '10

My current wiki uses categories extensively to organise images. However, if the number of images in a category exceeds the page limit, then the subcategories of that category will not appear on the first page of the main category. Example here http://wiki.evageeks.org/Category:Images_%28Screenshots%29 In order to get the subcategory list to display, you have to go to the second category page http://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=Category:Images_%28Screenshots%29&… I should mention that the main category is itself a subcategory of another category, in case this might be affecting things. Is there a resolution to this issue? Some magic word that can be called? I'm using Mediawiki 1.15.1 -- May The Maths Be With You

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 76, Issue 3
by Ron Laufer 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

> Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:42:51 -0600> From: DuTempete <dutempete(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Skin tweaking issue> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list> <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>> Message-ID: <4B42289B.7000004(a)gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> > try using instead #p-personal li a {color: #989cff;}> > That is how the text colour is currently being defined, and the existing > declaration should be in the main.css file.> > Jesse GroppiPerfect!! Thanks very much.... (still learning CSS as I go...) Ron -- Ron Laufer

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Avoid [[media:...]] form for upload
by Dionusia Kontotasiou 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Hi, I wonder if it is possible to avoid this form *[[Media:File.pdf]]* when someone wants to upload a file with a direct link. Or if mediawiki can add this form automatically. I use mediawiki with some other partners who they dont know basic wikilink syntax so it is quite difficult for them to upload a file and use this form [[media:...]] unless i give them some guidance. Thanks, Dionysia __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4743 (20100104) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com

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Group wiki review extension?
by Randall Hopper 05 Jan '10

05 Jan '10

Has anyone worked with extensions (or built-in behavior) that allow you review the content of a specific version of a wiki page and annotate it with comments to drive subsequent revision? The Talk page is just to much flipping back and forth to be useful to us. I'm looking for something like Crucible's code review tool where you can annotate directly on the document as an overlay, and you/others can see the comments right beneath the text the comments apply to. See here for some example pictures: http://jonaquino.blogspot.com/2008/05/programming-crucible-code-review-syst… http://blogs.atlassian.com/news/Crucible 2 - Review1.html Thanks, Randall

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Skin tweaking issue
by Ron Laufer 04 Jan '10

04 Jan '10

I've taken the default Monobook skin and inverted and tweaked most of the colors in the css to get a "dark" look for my horror-themed wiki. ( http://www.fraternityofshadows.com/wiki ) But some of the links aren't following the "a" color defined in the css. I have this in the css:a { text-decoration: none; color: #989cff; background: none;} and most links took the lighter blue color, except the personal toolbar links in the upper right (my preferences, my watchlist, etc) Looking in the source of the page, those links are in <div class="portlet" id="p-personal"> ... <div class="pBody"> but the links themselves have no class. (some links in there have class "new" if they don't point to anything yet) I see in the css this code: a.new, #p-personal a.new { color: #ba0000; } which does seem to affect the "new" links in p-personal, but I tried adding this: #p-personal a { color: #989cff;} to get the classless links, but it didn't work. Any ideas? Ron -- Ron Laufer

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url rewrite
by Huib Laurens 03 Jan '10

03 Jan '10

Hello, I'm using url rewrite on my wiki like explained on mediawiki.org but this makes it impossible for bots to use api.php because that gets forwarded to the article instead of the real api file. My htaccess. suPHP_ConfigPath /home/wikiwex/php.ini RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d RewriteRule ^(.*)$ index.php/$1 [PT,L,QSA] What kind of line can I add to ignore all requests for api.php ? Best regards, Huib -- "The soldiers graves are great preachers of peace...." http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Abigor

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