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by Lyndie Chiou 17 Nov '08

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by Lyndie Chiou 17 Nov '08

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definition of fields in the dump files at http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/
by Farkas, Illes 17 Nov '08

17 Nov '08

Dear List Members, Is there a definition (in human language) of the fields of the SQL dumps at http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki ? For example in the file page.sql.gz what is the definition of the following fields: counter, is_new, random, touched, latest, no_title_convert ? Sorry if I'm sending this question to the wrong list. If this is the case, then could you please suggest a list where I should send this question ? Thanks.

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] status of permissions
by Jan Steinman 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

> From: Iv Ray <pobox(a)verysmall.org> > > Jan Steinman schrieb: >> >> Good designs for anarchy and consensus tend to >> make poor designs for hierarchy and control. > > ... thanks God, there are people in MediaWiki, who think about good > design... I see you missed my point completely. My objection was strictly to your categorization of "good design" as "designed the way I think it should be done." Design serves a purpose. It does not necessarily serve *your* purpose. In fact, a good design for one purpose may well be a completely poor design for another purpose. That's why hammers aren't used for driving screws. :::: When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. -- Wayne Dyer. :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99AO08-18>

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16 Nov '08

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Re: [Mediawiki-l] status of permissions
by Jan Steinman 16 Nov '08

16 Nov '08

> From: Iv Ray <pobox(a)verysmall.org> > > Right, there are many reason for a good software design, and a good > design will make implementing permissions (and other features) easier. This may raise some hackles. Although there is always room for improvement, it can be argued that MediaWiki *is* a good design for what it was designed for! It's just that limiting visibility was not and is not important to the designers. One should not design for things that are not specified nor desired. That would be a bad design! :-) Gotta go now and put a sail on my Porche. I just can't believe those arrogant German engineers, making it so hard to attach a sail to their car! Must be poor design... I agree with several here who said that two or more wikis is the way to go. When the page gets mature enough to share, a simple export/ import script can make these perfected words of wisdom available to the unwashed masses. Good designs for anarchy and consensus tend to make poor designs for hierarchy and control. :::: Political language -- and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists -- is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. -- George Orwell :::: :::: Jan Steinman http://www.EcoReality.org ::::

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size not always displayed when using action=query & prop=revisions
by Pierre LINDENBAUM 15 Nov '08

15 Nov '08

Hi all, I used the mediawiki API to display the revisions about a protein (5-Methyltetrahydrofolate-homocysteine_methyltransferase) As you can see here http://bit.ly/5omL (via wikipedia) or here http://tinyurl.com/5gpb3n (via the API) the xml attribute 'size' was not used before the revision @id=133637806 . Could you explain me why ? Is there a way to obtain this information using the API ? Many thanks in advance Pierre Lindenbaum

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Welcome to mediawiki-l (weekly posting)
by river＠hemlock.toolserver.org 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Welcome to mediawiki-l. This mailing list exists for discussion and questions about the MediaWiki software[0]. Important MediaWiki-related announcements (such as new versions) are also posted to this list. Other resources. If you only wish to receive announcements, you should subscribe to mediawiki-announce[1] instead. MediaWiki development discussion, and all Wikimedia technical questions, should be directed to the wikitech-l[2] mailing list. Several other MediaWiki-related lists exist: - mediawiki-api[5] for API discussions, - mediawiki-enterprise[6] for discussion of MediaWiki in the enterprise, - mediawiki-cvs[7] for notification of commits to the Subversion repository, - mediawiki-i18n[8] for discussion of MediaWiki internationalisation support, - wikibugs-l[9] for notification of changes to the bug tracker. List administrivia (unsubscribing, list archives). To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit [12]. Archives of previous postings can be found at [3]. This list is also gatewayed to the Gmane NNTP server[4], which you can use to read and post to the list. Posting to the list. Before posting to this list, please read the MediaWiki FAQ[10]. Many common questions are answered here. You may also search the list archives to see if your question has been asked before. Please try to ask your question in a way that enables people to answer you. Provide all relevant details, explain your problem clearly, etc. You may wish to read [13], which explains how to ask questions well. To post to the list, send mail to <mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>. This is a public list, so you should not include confidential information in mails you send. When replying to an existing thread, use the "Reply" or "Followup" feature of your mail client, so that clients that understand threading can sort your message properly. When quoting other messages, please use the "inline" quoting style[11], for clarity. When creating a new thread, do not reply to an existing message and change the subject. This will confuse peoples' mail readers, and will result in fewer people reading your mail. Instead, compose a new message for your post. Messages posted to the list have the "Reply-To" header set to the mailing list, which means that by default, replies will go to the entire list. If you are posting a reply which is only interesting to the original poster, and not the list in general, you should change the reply to only go to that person. This avoids cluttering the list with irrelevant traffic. About this message. This message is posted to the list once per week by <river(a)wikimedia.org>. Please contact me if you have any questions or concerns about this mailing. References. [0] http://www.mediawiki.org/ [1] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce [2] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l [3] http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/ [4] http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki [5] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api [6] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-enterprise [7] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-cvs [8] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n [9] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l [10] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/FAQ [11] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Inline_replying [12] http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l [13] http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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URL parameters for wikitext
by Garth Patil 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Hi, Is there a set of URL parameters sent in a GET request to MediaWiki that will return ONLY the wikitext of a page as the response. Basically, I'm looking for something like the 'view source' page, but that just returns the wikitext from the textbox, not including the surrounding HTML. Thank you, Garth

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mo.wikipedia.org when will you stop making joke of us ?
by Cetateanu Moldovanu 13 Nov '08

13 Nov '08

Hi, I'm a citizen of Republic of Moldova and I want to inform you that in our country everyone is writing Moldovan language with latin letters. When we were under soviet union occupation, they tryed to russificate us and forced to have our language written with cyrilic. In 1991, after getting the freedom to choose, we choose our language to be written with latin letters, as we did before russians conquest us (without ask the people) and divided from Romania (our mother land). Thereby, as a free moldovan speaking man, I'm asking you to remove mo.wikipedia.org (witch is in cyrillic and is very offensive for us) and respect our choice as a independent nation or to make it with latin letters. Thank you.

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