Hi there. The Editor Engagement Experiments team wants to improve the account creation user experience[1].
One simple change is after someone successfully creates an account, instead of showing 'Login successful', make the page show 'Welcome, NewUser'. We filed a bug[2] and the change is mostly-merged (thanks Nikerabbit and IAlex) and should roll out with 1.21wmf5 over the next two weeks.
This means the existing welcomecreation message splits into new welcomeuser and welcomecreation-msg messages. If a wiki has customized its MediaWiki:welcomecreation message then that will probably need adjustment.
I thought about removing or replacing welcomecreation but the extensions ApiSignup and SpecialUserSignup (unused by WMF) and ./tests/parser/preprocess/ all refer to it. Do developers usually introduce a new message then obsolete the old one, or cut over in one commit?
For your information, the E3 team has more substantial changes to user login, account creation, and onboarding (welcoming users after account creation) in development. I'll keep i18n people informed; I hope this is the right list for the changes. I figure any communication is better than throwing code onto 863 wikis and letting people figure it out :-)
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_engagement_experiments#Projects [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42215
-- =S Page software engineer on E3
Hi!
I've seen (and translated in Asturian) the new messages, and I was in doubt if GENDER could be used in welcomeuser message. I didn't did, just in case, but my guess is that it might be done. Am I right?
Best regards -- Xuacu
2012/11/22 S Page spage@wikimedia.org
Hi there. The Editor Engagement Experiments team wants to improve the account creation user experience[1].
One simple change is after someone successfully creates an account, instead of showing 'Login successful', make the page show 'Welcome, NewUser'. We filed a bug[2] and the change is mostly-merged (thanks Nikerabbit and IAlex) and should roll out with 1.21wmf5 over the next two weeks.
This means the existing welcomecreation message splits into new welcomeuser and welcomecreation-msg messages. If a wiki has customized its MediaWiki:welcomecreation message then that will probably need adjustment.
I thought about removing or replacing welcomecreation but the extensions ApiSignup and SpecialUserSignup (unused by WMF) and ./tests/parser/preprocess/ all refer to it. Do developers usually introduce a new message then obsolete the old one, or cut over in one commit?
For your information, the E3 team has more substantial changes to user login, account creation, and onboarding (welcoming users after account creation) in development. I'll keep i18n people informed; I hope this is the right list for the changes. I figure any communication is better than throwing code onto 863 wikis and letting people figure it out :-)
[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Editor_engagement_experiments#Projects [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42215
-- =S Page software engineer on E3
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Op 22 nov. 2012 om 02:35 heeft Xuacu xuacusk8@gmail.com het volgende geschreven:
I've seen (and translated in Asturian) the new messages, and I was in doubt if GENDER could be used in welcomeuser message. I didn't did, just in case, but my guess is that it might be done. Am I right?
As gender identification is not a part of user creation, this issue is mostly academic at the moment.
-- Siebrand Mazeland
M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand
Op 22 nov. 2012 om 01:37 heeft S Page spage@wikimedia.org het volgende geschreven:
I thought about removing or replacing welcomecreation but the extensions ApiSignup and SpecialUserSignup (unused by WMF) and ./tests/parser/preprocess/ all refer to it. Do developers usually introduce a new message then obsolete the old one, or cut over in one commit?
When a message change is incompatible with current translations, you should pick a new key.
-- Siebrand Mazeland
M: +31 6 50 69 1239 Skype: siebrand
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Siebrand Mazeland (WMF) smazeland@wikimedia.org wrote:
Op 22 nov. 2012 om 01:37 heeft S Page spage@wikimedia.org het volgende geschreven:
I thought about removing or replacing welcomecreation but the extensions ApiSignup and SpecialUserSignup (unused by WMF) and ./tests/parser/preprocess/ all refer to it. Do developers usually introduce a new message then obsolete the old one, or cut over in one commit?
When a message change is incompatible with current translations, you should pick a new key.
What do you mean by "incompatible"? The way this message is used has changed, but it's not incompatible at an API level (those extensions may or may not have to adapt to the new meaning).
My initial change adding "welcomecreation-agora" was approved and is in wmf5, my revision where I changed the name to "welcomecreation-msg" is not. It's OK, not ideal.
Thanks for your advice and insight.
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