This is great!

But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.comwrote:

The main OpenStreetMap website (http://openstreetmap.org) can now be translated on the web using Translatewiki. I originally floated the idea in July[1] and after meeting up with the maintainers of Translatewiki at Wikimania 2009[2] we made it happen. Nikerabbit and Siebrand (Translatewiki guys) have done some great work on making this happen.

If you want to translate OpenStreetMap site you can now do so at the Translatewiki site:

http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap

Since it was imported yesterday from the OpenStreetMap SVN server we've had 1500 edits to the translations by 10 different users. 9 of those are to languages that didn't have translations already (although they're still small):

Stats for yesterday:

http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Translating:OpenStreetMap/stats/trunk... Stats for today:

http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Translating:OpenStreetMap/stats/trunk... Stats for *now*: http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap/stats/trunk

These translations aren't automatically being synced back to the OpenStreetMap SVN repository yet. Me and Nikerabbit have been fixing bugs in the import/export process required to make this happen. Those bugs don't affect translations on Translatewiki.net, but it might be a few days before we can start committing back so the translated strings will show up on the OpenStreetMap site.

So please go to Translatewiki and help make OpenStreetMap available in your language!

1. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-July/016127.html
2. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-August/016707.html

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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar seav80@gmail.com wrote:

But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.

It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious next step being Potlatch.

To add Potlatch some internal changes need to be done in Potlatch itself. I've filed a bug detailing what these are:

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2304

I don't think Richard minds this change to Potlatch but he'd rather not do the work since he's working on Potlatch 2. Changing this is easy even if you're not familiar with Potlatch, you just have to change all the calls to the iText(): remove the first parameter and split it ont a YAML file.

If you (or someone else) interested in seeing Potlatch on Translatewiki solving that bug is the first step towards doing that. The second one is hacking an importer/exporter for Potlatch's YAML format for Translatewiki. That's easy though, it's just a matter of reusing the existing YAML code without all the complexities we had to deal with for supporting applications using Rails' i18n framework.

From: Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.com

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.com wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar seav80@gmail.com wrote:

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But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.

It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious next step being Potlatch.

It would also be a very interesting project to use Translatewiki to translate some subsets of the OpenStreetMap data itself.

For instance country or state names, capitals, or cities with >0.5 million people, stuff like that.

TranslateWiki .. awesome stuff!

Agreed some kind of way to translate specific parts of the OSM database would have huge payoff. There's a large open translation community online, we only need to give them familiar tools.

I'd reckon that we'd want our own custom tool for this. It would connect to the API, rather than SVN. Maps could be embedded in the tool, to provide geographic context for translators.

Also, the Foundation has growing needs for translators for our communications. Wonder if TranslateWiki or something else is a way to get that done.

-Mikel

This is extremely cool. Props to you & the translatewiki crew. SJ

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:52 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.com wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.com wrote:

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On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar seav80@gmail.com wrote:

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But which OSM components does this cover? I'm assuming this only covers the main OSM website (and the wiki indirectly since MediaWiki is already in TranslateWiki) but not Potlatch, and the other editors.

It's only the website at the moment as Siebrand says. But it would be very nice to add other OpenStreetMap applications, the most obvious next step being Potlatch.

To add Potlatch some internal changes need to be done in Potlatch itself. I've filed a bug detailing what these are:

http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2304

I've now fixed Potlatch up so that it can be Translated on Translatewiki. Now it just needs to be imported into Translatewiki.

I've put up a notice on the OSM wiki so that confused Translators won't use it in the interim:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Template:Potlatch/Translation&...

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason avarab@gmail.com wrote:

These translations aren't automatically being synced back to the OpenStreetMap SVN repository yet. Me and Nikerabbit have been fixing bugs in the import/export process required to make this happen. Those bugs don't affect translations on Translatewiki.net, but it might be a few days before we can start committing back so the translated strings will show up on the OpenStreetMap site.

So please go to Translatewiki and help make OpenStreetMap available in your language!

We've solved the outstanding issues that were holding up the sync. I've now commited the Translatewiki translations to trunk (but they're not live on the website yet).

http://trac.osm.org/changeset/17832 http://trac.osm.org/changeset/17836

We now have 26 new languages. Which more than doubles the previous 25. Some of them are really small but a few are almost complete translations of the website.

Hopefully Potlatch will be translatable within a few days.