Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=language...
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=language...
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Hi Amir, all
Thumbs up for Asturian (ast)
Best regards -- Xuacu Saturio
Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes
Hi Amir,
I skimmed through the list and haven't seen anything incorrect. I have a question though; considering the fact that some of this data is available in CLDR, have you ever considered integrating their data and then do a fallback? The fallback would definitely be necessary in some cases because your list is *way* more extensive than what CLDR currently supports.
Of course, CLDR specs lets adding new locales easily. So the ideal would be to have a seed (with minimal information) for the locales which doesn't exists there and are present in MW list. As CLDR is peer reviewed through surveys targeted in-country scholars and standard body representatives, normally the quality of the data and metadata is very good.
In the past, there was at least this one extension I know off which was facilitating the use of CLDR data on MW: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CLDR
Let me know what you think. I'd be happy to help.
Cheers, Shervin
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:46, Xuacu Saturio xuacusk8@gmail.com wrote:
On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEADhttps://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;hb=HEAD
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Hi Amir, all
Thumbs up for Asturian (ast)
Best regards
Xuacu Saturio
Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes
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Hi Amir,
I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is * Česky*,* *but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Ce%C5%A1tina, českyhttp://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8Deskyentry in wikitionaryand čeština http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8De%C5%A1tina entry in wikitionary.
Thanks, Soslan
2012/4/1 Shervin Afshar shervinafshar@gmail.com
Hi Amir,
I skimmed through the list and haven't seen anything incorrect. I have a question though; considering the fact that some of this data is available in CLDR, have you ever considered integrating their data and then do a fallback? The fallback would definitely be necessary in some cases because your list is *way* more extensive than what CLDR currently supports.
Of course, CLDR specs lets adding new locales easily. So the ideal would be to have a seed (with minimal information) for the locales which doesn't exists there and are present in MW list. As CLDR is peer reviewed through surveys targeted in-country scholars and standard body representatives, normally the quality of the data and metadata is very good.
In the past, there was at least this one extension I know off which was facilitating the use of CLDR data on MW: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CLDR
Let me know what you think. I'd be happy to help.
Cheers, Shervin
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:46, Xuacu Saturio xuacusk8@gmail.com wrote:
On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEADhttps://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;hb=HEAD
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Hi Amir, all
Thumbs up for Asturian (ast)
Best regards
Xuacu Saturio
Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes
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ok for hi, ml, sa, ta
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Soslan Khubulov soslanx@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Amir,
I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is * Česky*,* *but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Ce%C5%A1tina, česky http://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8Desky entry in wikitionary and čeština http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8De%C5%A1tina entry in wikitionary.
Thanks, Soslan
2012/4/1 Shervin Afshar shervinafshar@gmail.com
Hi Amir,
I skimmed through the list and haven't seen anything incorrect. I have a question though; considering the fact that some of this data is available in CLDR, have you ever considered integrating their data and then do a fallback? The fallback would definitely be necessary in some cases because your list is *way* more extensive than what CLDR currently supports.
Of course, CLDR specs lets adding new locales easily. So the ideal would be to have a seed (with minimal information) for the locales which doesn't exists there and are present in MW list. As CLDR is peer reviewed through surveys targeted in-country scholars and standard body representatives, normally the quality of the data and metadata is very good.
In the past, there was at least this one extension I know off which was facilitating the use of CLDR data on MW: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CLDR
Let me know what you think. I'd be happy to help.
Cheers, Shervin
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:46, Xuacu Saturio xuacusk8@gmail.com wrote:
On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEADhttps://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;hb=HEAD
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Hi Amir, all
Thumbs up for Asturian (ast)
Best regards
Xuacu Saturio
Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes
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On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 23:15, Soslan Khubulov soslanx@gmail.com wrote:
I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is Česky, but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language, česky entry in wikitionary and čeština entry in wikitionary.
"Česky" is an adverb, as in "I speak Czech". "Čeština" is the noun, meaning "Czech language". Please note that in English, it would be the same word. For comparison, Slovak is the same case as Czech: adv. slovenský, n. slovenčina. The noun is used in your list.
Regards, ~~helix84
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 11:44, helix84 helix84@centrum.sk wrote:
For comparison, Slovak is the same case as Czech: adv. slovenský, n.
Just a correction of what I wrote: adv. "po slovensky" (slovenský is an adj.) It doesn't change the meaning of what I wrote.
Regards, ~~helix84
1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase)
See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/
2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right.
* 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language")
2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=language...
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Please keep the word "language" in some of those languages for disambiguation. For example, sometimes you find the adjective "Tyva" alone in reference to the language when the context is clear (such as "Tyva-Angli sostuk/English-Tuvan dictionary"), but in more formal settings or lack of context you need to add the noun (Tyva by itself could mean the country or someone of that ethnicity.). See, for example http://tyvadyl.ru. Some of those other languages may have similar usage.
________________________________ From: Александр Сигачёв alexander.sigachov@gmail.com To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] The name of your language in MediaWiki - action required
1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase)
See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/
2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right.
* 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language")
2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=language...
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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Please keep the word "language" in some of those languages for disambiguation. For example, sometimes you find the adjective "Tyva" alone in reference to the language when the context is clear (such as "Tyva-Angli sostuk/English-Tuvan dictionary"), but in more formal settings or lack of context you need to add the noun (Tyva by itself could mean the country or someone of that ethnicity.). See, for example http://tyvadyl.ru/. Some of those other languages may have similar usage.
________________________________ From: Александр Сигачёв alexander.sigachov@gmail.com To: MediaWiki internationalisation mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] The name of your language in MediaWiki - action required
1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase)
See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/
2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right.
* 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language")
2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
Hi,
MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article.
Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I
fixed what i
knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything.
Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=language...
Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links?
Thank you,
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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