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Amir E. Aharoni

31 Mar 2012 31 Mar '12

9:32 p.m.

Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languag… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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Xuacu Saturio

31 Mar 31 Mar

9:46 p.m.

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On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

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Hi Amir, all Thumbs up for Asturian (ast) Best regards -- Xuacu Saturio Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes

Shervin Afshar

10:57 p.m.

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Hi Amir, I skimmed through the list and haven't seen anything incorrect. I have a question though; considering the fact that some of this data is available in CLDR, have you ever considered integrating their data and then do a fallback? The fallback would definitely be necessary in some cases because your list is *way* more extensive than what CLDR currently supports. Of course, CLDR specs lets adding new locales easily. So the ideal would be to have a seed (with minimal information) for the locales which doesn't exists there and are present in MW list. As CLDR is peer reviewed through surveys targeted in-country scholars and standard body representatives, normally the quality of the data and metadata is very good. In the past, there was at least this one extension I know off which was facilitating the use of CLDR data on MW: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CLDR Let me know what you think. I'd be happy to help. Cheers, Shervin On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:46, Xuacu Saturio <xuacusk8(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEAD<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gi… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ______________________________**_________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.**wikimedia.org <Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-**i18n<https://…

Hi Amir, all Thumbs up for Asturian (ast) Best regards -- Xuacu Saturio Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes ______________________________**_________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.**wikimedia.org <Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-**i18n<https://…

Soslan Khubulov

11:15 p.m.

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Hi Amir, I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is * Česky*,* *but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language <http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Ce%C5%A1tina>, česky<http://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8Desky>entry in wikitionaryand čeština <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8De%C5%A1tina> entry in wikitionary. Thanks, Soslan 2012/4/1 Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar(a)gmail.com>

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On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEAD<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gi… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ______________________________**_________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n@lists.**wikimedia.org<Mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-**i18n<https://…

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സുനിൽ (Sunil)

1 Apr 1 Apr

5:02 a.m.

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ok for hi, ml, sa, ta On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:45 AM, Soslan Khubulov <soslanx(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Amir, I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is * Česky*,* *but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language <http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8Ce%C5%A1tina>, česky <http://cs.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8Desky> entry in wikitionary and čeština <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C4%8De%C5%A1tina> entry in wikitionary. Thanks, Soslan 2012/4/1 Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar(a)gmail.com>

On sáb 31 mar 2012 21:32:35 CEST, Amir E. Aharoni wrote:

Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/**r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;** a=blob;f=languages/Names.php;**hb=HEAD<https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gi… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ ______________________________**_________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n@lists.**wikimedia.org<Mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-**i18n<https://…

Hi Amir, all Thumbs up for Asturian (ast) Best regards -- Xuacu Saturio Sent while testing Thunderbird Unviáu dende Thunderbird en pruebes ______________________________**_________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n@lists.**wikimedia.org<Mediawiki-i18n@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-**i18n<https://…

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helix84

11:44 a.m.

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On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 23:15, Soslan Khubulov <soslanx(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I found language name for Czech is not correct. In the array its name is Česky, but it seems that is not the name. The sources are article about Czech language, česky entry in wikitionary and čeština entry in wikitionary.

"Česky" is an adverb, as in "I speak Czech". "Čeština" is the noun, meaning "Czech language". Please note that in English, it would be the same word. For comparison, Slovak is the same case as Czech: adv. slovenský, n. slovenčina. The noun is used in your list. Regards, ~~helix84

helix84

1:17 p.m.

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On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 11:44, helix84 <helix84(a)centrum.sk> wrote:

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For comparison, Slovak is the same case as Czech: adv. slovenský, n.

Just a correction of what I wrote: adv. "po slovensky" (slovenský is an adj.) It doesn't change the meaning of what I wrote. Regards, ~~helix84

Александр Сигачёв

9:14 p.m.

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1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase) See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right. * 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language") 2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>il>:

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Stacey Borsody

2 Apr 2 Apr

3:14 a.m.

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Please keep the word "language" in some of those languages for disambiguation. For example, sometimes you find the adjective "Tyva" alone in reference to the language when the context is clear (such as "Tyva-Angli sostuk/English-Tuvan dictionary"), but in more formal settings or lack of context you need to add the noun (Tyva by itself could mean the country or someone of that ethnicity.). See, for example http://tyvadyl.ru. Some of those other languages may have similar usage. ________________________________ From: Александр Сигачёв <alexander.sigachov(a)gmail.com> To: MediaWiki internationalisation <mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] The name of your language in MediaWiki - action required 1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase) See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right. * 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language") 2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>il>:

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Hi, MediaWiki has a list of language names. These names are used in several locations; the most visible location is the list of interlanguage links that appears in every article. Recently i've been making little fixes to that list. I fixed what i knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languag… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

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Stacey Borsody

4:11 a.m.

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Please keep the word "language" in some of those languages for disambiguation. For example, sometimes you find the adjective "Tyva" alone in reference to the language when the context is clear (such as "Tyva-Angli sostuk/English-Tuvan dictionary"), but in more formal settings or lack of context you need to add the noun (Tyva by itself could mean the country or someone of that ethnicity.). See, for example http://tyvadyl.ru/. Some of those other languages may have similar usage. ________________________________ From: Александр Сигачёв <alexander.sigachov(a)gmail.com> To: MediaWiki internationalisation <mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 12:14 PM Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] The name of your language in MediaWiki - action required 1. 'koi' (Komi-Permyak) should be 'Перем коми' (second word in lowercase) See http://koi.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 2. Some titles have word "language". I'm not sure if it's right. * 'vep' should be 'Vepsän' ("kel" is word for "language") * 'tyv' should be 'Тыва' ("дыл" is "language") * 'tly' should be 'Толышә' ("зывон" is "language") * 'sah' should be 'Саха' ("тыла" is "language") * 'liv' should be 'Līvõ' ("kēļ" is "language") 2012/3/31 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il>il>:

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fixed what i

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knew, but there are many language about which i don't know anything. Please take a look at it: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;a=blob;f=languag… Find the name of your language and check: Is it written correctly? Is it appropriate for a list of interlanguage links? Thank you, -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Mediawiki-i18n mailing list Mediawiki-i18n(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n

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Amir E. Aharoni
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Shervin Afshar
Soslan Khubulov
Stacey Borsody
Stacey Borsody
Xuacu Saturio
Александр Сигачёв
സുനിൽ (Sunil)