On 12/13/2007 1:04 AM, Roan Kattouw wrote: I would like to know that as well. :) My suspicion is that the user interface, i.e. the frontend servers, do the conversion. Which would mean that all users of the MediaWiki API would have to replicate that work. That would severely limit the use of the API for Chinese language content IMHO. But then I don't know much about MediaWiki yet and maybe I have just missed something obvious. Thanks, Jan

On 12/13/2007 11:28 PM, Paolo Liberatore wrote: Thanks for the reminder, Paolo! I hadn't considered index.php before because I assumed it only returns the rendered HTML markup. But now I saw that there is an action=raw parameter which returns the raw wiki markup that I'm looking for. However this API has one other drawback: In contrast to api.php it doesn't have an option to resolve redirects automatically. When calling api.php I was using the redirects parameter to do so but this doesn't seem to be supported by index.php when using action=raw (only for action=view). That means I would potentially have to make multiple calls to resolve redirects manually. Or is there a way to avoid this? Thanks, Jan -- Jan Peter Hecking .............. Yahoo! Connected Life Phone: +65 6279 7304 ........... 6 Temasek Boulevard Email: jhecking(a)yahoo-inc.com .. #08-00 Suntec Tower Four Yahoo! Messenger: jhecking ..... Singapore 038986

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Jan Hecking wrote: You never need to call it more than twice, because a redirect that points to another redirect is in fact non-functional in the regular interface. I don't think there is a way to make index.php automatically redirect with action=raw; however, you can also use action=render (this is also compatible with the 'redirect' argument, I'll fix the MW page). Paolo

To follow up on this somewhat old thread: I finally got around to actually testing Paolo's suggestion of using the index.php API instead of api.php. Turns out it doesn't actually work. While the index.php API does have a variant parameter that allows to select one of the Chinese language variants (e.g. zh, zh-hk, zh-tw) it does not actually honor this parameter when combined with action=raw. When returning the raw Wiki markup it always returns the same variant (zh?) no matter what variant is specified. $ curl -s "http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E8%A5%BF%E6%81%A9%E5%A1%94&action=raw&variant=zh-cn" $ curl -s "http://zh.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%E8%A5%BF%E6%81%A9%E5%A1%94&action=raw&variant=zh-tw" $ diff zh-cn zh-tw diff shows that the markup returned is identical. With action=view (the default) the output is clearly different. So it looks like there is actually no way to get the raw markup in different language variants? Thanks, Jan On 12/13/2007 6:45 PM, Jan Hecking wrote:

Jan Hecking wrote: I think it's due there's only one raw markup. The variant is chosen later for display. So you should locally perform that work (you'll need some Mediawiki: messages).

Jan Hecking schreef: I don't really have the final answer to this, but I do know what action=raw does internally: read an article's wikitext from the database and output it without any processing. In that sense, one could say action=raw isn't supposed to support variants, as it dumps the *raw* wikitext content of an article. On the other hand, the alternatives kind of suck, so I guess action=raw should support variants anyway. Has this bug been filed at Bugzilla yet? If not, please do so. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

Andrew Dunbar schreef: That's probably the way to go. I'll start implementing this. Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

On Thu, Jan 31, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Jan Hecking <jhecking(a)yahoo-inc.com> wrote: That depends. Features that do not require schema changes and do not have huge effects are usually live within a few days. However since the weekend is coming, it will probably next week. Bryan