For categories, list=backlinks&blnamespace=14 returns the categories that *link
to* the specified page -- that is, categories whose *descriptions* link to
that page -- whereas prop=categories returns the categories that *contain *the
specified page. These are two distinct relationships.
For portals, the software has no built-in notion of a portal "containing" a
page, but you've defined it this way:
The <links> element contains <pl> items in
namespaces 0 (articles), 14
(categories), and 100 (portals). I interpret that as
"Portal:Novels
contains these items", meaning that in tree terms it is the parent of those
items, or that those items "belong to Portal:Novels".
That is, by your definition, "portal X *links to* page Y" and "portal X *
contains* page Y" are the same relationship. So
list=backlinks&blnamespace=100 (which returns the portal pages that *link to
* the specified page) is equivalent to your hypothetical prop=portals (which
would return the portal pages that *contain* the specified page).
Does that make sense?
-Ran Ari-Gur
(user "Ruakh" on WMF projects)
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Robert Crowe <robert(a)ourwebhome.com> wrote:
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to criticize. What I
was trying to do is to
validate that list=backlinks and prop=categories are querying for the same
relationship if the backlinks namespace is set for categories, using
blnamespace=14. If they were two ways to query for the same relationship
between pages, then the results should be the same, but they are not.
I've been able to verify that prop=categories returns the correct
relationship, because the inverse (list=categorymembers) returns the inverse
result. If prop=categories indicates that A is a parent of B, then
list=categorymembers correctly indicates that B is a child of A.
So what I'm trying to do is find the same relationship for portal pages
(namespace=100). list=categorymembers also correctly returns the children
who are portals, but I don't know how to find the parents that are portals.
Thanks in advance,
Robert
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Engels [mailto:andreengels@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 10:15 AM
To: Robert Crowe
Cc: MediaWiki API announcements & discussion
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-api] Portals vs categories
On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Robert Crowe <robert(a)ourwebhome.com>
wrote:
Thanks André, but after testing it seems that
backlinks returns something
else. For example this query:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&titles=Category:Voltaire…
Returns:
<query>
<pages>
<page pageid="3465227" ns="14"
title="Category:Voltaire">
<categories>
<cl ns="14" title="Category:Categories named after French
people" />
<cl ns="14"
title="Category:Categories named after philosophers"
/>
> <cl ns="14" title="Category:Categories named after
writers" />
> </categories>
> </page>
> </pages>
> </query>
>
> But this query:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&list=backlinks&bltit…
Returns:
<query>
<backlinks />
</query>
If I just use "Voltaire" instead of "Category:Voltaire" then I think
it's
looking at a different page, right? The results are different, and
don't
match the first query results:
<query>
<backlinks>
<bl pageid="3465227" ns="14"
title="Category:Voltaire" />
<bl pageid="15582893" ns="14" title="Category:Novels by
Voltaire" />
</backlinks>
</query>
You criticize my request because another request does not give the
same result as a third request... I understand less and less of what
you are trying to do.
--
André Engels, andreengels(a)gmail.com
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