Hello.
The OTRS mailing lists have to be renamed from ...otrs... to
...vrt... at some not yet defined time.
It may make sense to do this with the migration to mailman3. Please
feel free to contact me for coordination.
Thank you.
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 05:05:59PM -0700, Kunal Mehta wrote:
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:05:59 -0700
From: Kunal Mehta <legoktm(a)debian.org>
To: listadmins(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [List admins] Mailman3 upgrade beginning soon, action needed
Reply-To: "List for discussions and announcements related to
lists.wikimedia.org" <listadmins(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7da0cd7c-b3d3-533f-455a-78677f163533(a)debian.org>
Dear Wikimedia mailing list admins,
As you may have heard, we will be upgrading the mailing list software to
Mailman 3, which is a full rewrite, fixing lots of long standing issues,
especially around security. A short list of improvements:
* One user account (no more monthly password reminder emails or list
passwords)
* Ability to search through archives
* Posting through a web interface
* A web interface that doesn't look like its from the early 2000s
For the most part, if you just send and receive mail from the list, nothing
dramatic will change.
A test installation is available at <https://lists-next.wikimedia.org/> if
you'd like to take a look now (all data will eventually be deleted). We can
import your list into the test system so you can look around the new
interfaces, make sure settings were migrated correctly and archives display
correctly.
We're still finalizing the exact dates, but we may start migrating mailing
lists starting next week. They'll be migrated in batches, starting with
lists with no archives, and then going by size of archive and # of
subscribers. Expect very big/old lists (wikimedia-l, wikitech-l, etc.) to go
last. We plan to send a notification to the list admins when we start
migrating the list and once it's finished.
We will need help from list admins to make this go smoothly.
* If your list is obsolete or should be archived, please add "[OBSOLETE]" or
"[ARCHIVED]" to the list description and we'll take care of the rest.
* Please update your list description to indicate who the list admins are
(either usernames, email addresses, etc.)
* If you'd like to volunteer your list to go early, let us know.
* On the other hand, if you think your list needs special handling and
should go later, let us know as well.
* It is our intention to have all mailing lists be publicly listed, please
let us know if you have a reason that the existence of your list should be
kept private.
* If you've lost track of all the lists you're responsible for, we can look
it up for you :)
* The canonical URL of your mailing list will change. If you link to your
mailing list in help pages, templates, etc. You should update it after
migration. For example
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l> will change to
<https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/>
(we expect to provide redirects).
* For public archives, we will ensure that archive links will not break. For
private lists, we do not intend to support old archive URLs - if this is a
big issue for you, please let us know.
There's probably stuff we missed to mention, if you have questions,
concerns, comments, please let us know on this list or #wikimedia-tech on
IRC.
For tracking the work see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280322
Thanks,
Amir (Ladsgroup) and Kunal (Legoktm)
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