Hello everyone,

A couple of things here:

1. I am completely with Katie on this - we would dearly love to be able to engage with people who speak languages other than English. We can point to the excellent work done by Robin in Cymraeg as a brilliant example of what can be done by someone with motivation. While I think we'll be hard-pressed to replicate Robin (although I wish we could, of course) there are plenty of opportunities. Not just in Gaidhlig or Gaeilge (or even Kernowac, for that matter) but other commonly spoken languages in the UK, such as Hindi, Urdu and Bengali. We definitely welcome any suggestions on how we may do this. I will add something to the Wikimedia UK wiki water cooler to that effect now.

2. I think a language policy is a good idea as long as it doesn't become overly bureaucratic. Robin, do you have any examples of a similar policy that is maintained by a non-public body? I remember working in the public sector and we had the Welsh language scheme. We were obliged to publish any information of specific relevance to Wales in Cymraeg but not other non-English languages so we would need some breadth to any policy / guidance we develop. (I think the reason for this in the public sector was because Cymraeg was the only non-English language recognised by the UK government as "official" although I could be wrong.) We would certainly need volunteer input into any policy and it would be important to involve speakers / Wikipedians working in non-English languages. 

There are some interesting figures on languages spoken in the UK in this article from The Independent - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/polish-is-second-most-spoken-language-in-england-as-census-reveals-140000-residents-cannot-speak-english-at-all-8472447.html 

I hope this is useful,

Stevie


On 22 April 2013 16:31, info@cymruwales.com <info@cymruwales.com> wrote:
Hi Rex
 
On two occasions at the British Library I mentioned the importance of working WITHIN the community not from the outside in. If we're not careful this will look like a foreign project thrust upon them rather than working organically: from the roots up. 
 
The Library has a wealth of Gaelic manuscripts and books; take a glimpse:
 
http://www.nls.uk/collections/manuscripts/collections/gaelic-manuscripts
http://www.nls.uk/collections/rare-books/collections/gaelic
 
as well many Scots classics, such as   this one from the 15th-century poet Robert Henryson:
 
http://digital.nls.uk/morall-fabillis-of-esope-the-phyrgian/pageturner.cfm?id=74457640
 
which is, by the way, on CC-BY-SA.
 
My second point here is that all language Wikis in Scotland should have been told at the same time. Surely, WMUK can understand the importance of this? My last point refers to the fact that many such jobs in Scotland, Ireland and Wales make the ability to speak Gaidhlig, Gaeilge or Cymraeg respectively either advantageous or essential. 

 
I await Andrew's response, but from your answers I would suggest that WMUK draws up a language Policy asap.
 
Best regards
 
Robin
 
 
 
On 22 April 2013 at 23:43 rexx <rexx@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

I'm not aware of any feedback from the community on the part of the 2013 Activity Plan that deals with the WiR programme.

It would be wonderful if we had a Scots Gaelic speaker involved in our activities in Scotland. Sadly only around 60,000 people now speak Gàidhlig and most appear to be in the Islands. While I'd like to think that we could find a bilingual WiR to work in Edinburgh, I wonder what the chances realistically are of finding one? It's certainly worth asking the question, though.

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Rexx



On 22 April 2013 22:29, info@cymruwales.com <info@cymruwales.com> wrote:
Hi Andrew
 
1. Can you send me a link to the wiki community discussions regarding this post please.
 
2. I note that you have only informed the en wiki community of this news; don't you think that Uicipeid Gàidhlig (and Scotts) should have been told at the same time?
 
3. I note that the job spec requirements include: 
  • communicate in English clearly to a wide variety of audiences and have excellent presentation skills
Surely, the ability to speak Gàidhlig would be an advantage to this post and should have been mentioned?
 
Best regards
 
Robin
 
 

> On 22 April 2013 at 12:02 Andrew Gray < andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just as my work at the British Library is coming to an end, I'm
> delighted to be able to tell people about a new Wikimedian in
> Residence post at the National Library of Scotland - I've helped work
> to set this up, and I think there's a real potential for doing amazing
> things here. The NLS is a great institution, with some really
> innovative and forward-thinking work, and as well as the obvious
> strengths in Scottish history and culture they have major map
> collections and one of the most interesting publishing archives in the
> UK. Lots of scope for interesting projects here.
>
> It's full-time, for four months, though this may possibly be
> negotiable to a longer period at part time - it's worth asking. The
> job is paid and formally employed by the Library, funded jointly by
> the Library and by Wikimedia UK.
> http://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/2013/04/1533/ has further details and a
> link to the NLS recruitment site.
>
> Please circulate this widely!
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> - Andrew Gray
> andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
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