Thank you Jake and Patrick!
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:05 PM Jake Orlowitz <jorlowitz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Rajene!
Wikipedia Library wrote this summary that could easily be turned into a
slide or two:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Cultural_Prof…
?
Cheers,
Jake Orlowitz
Wikipedia Library
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> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:26:53 -0400
> From: RJ Hardeman <vizzylane(a)gmail.com>
> To: "Wikimedia & Libraries" <libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org>rg>,
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> Subject: [libraries] Librarians and conflict of interest
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> Hi All,
>
> Just a change of subject for this email thread. Next month, my colleague
> and I will be introducing Wikipedia to a group of librarians and wanted to
> include a slide on conflict of interest and librarians. Is there a policy
> or best practice set of guidelines that we can reference and share?
>
> Please let me know,
>
> Thank you,
> Rajene
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:30 Kerry Raymond <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, unfortunately the way we often promote 1Lib1Ref can leave that
> > impression (it’s cleaning-up after some lazy Wikipedians!). There are a
> > number of ways to deal with this.
> >
> >
> >
> > Firstly explain away “1 Ref”, just say that it’s asking librarians to
> take
> > a first step, and obviously we hope they will do more than 1. Tell them
> it
> > can 1Lib10Ref if they prefer.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second, the topic doesn’t have to be random. If the library has a
> > particular topic area of interest (probably something they actively
> collect
> > and are proud of), talk to them about adding citations in articles
> relating
> > to that topic area. Now your librarians are exploiting their special
> > collection material and their special expertise in that collections.
> Such
> > citations (particularly if they refer to online accessible content on
> their
> > website or at least a catalogue entry) will drive interest in the
> library
> > (and its website). Librarians like that because it provides a way by
> which
> > they can promote their special collection (without crossing the COI
> > boundary – remember [[WP:CURATOR]] says it is not COI for a GLAM to do
> > edits that relate to the content of the GLAM’s collections).
> >
> >
> >
> > The way to work with a special topic is to **not** use Citation Hunt
> but
> > rather use the tool Petscan to find the articles in their topic of
> interest
> > that need citations
> >
> >
> >
> >
https://petscan.wmflabs.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > with which you can construct a list of articles within a specific
> category
> > tree in Wikipedia (which relates to one of library’s area of interest)
> > which are intersected with the tracking category “All articles with
> > unsourced statements” (which means the article has a citation-needed
> > template in it). Note, that the documentation for most of those
> “quality”
> > tags usually mentions a tracking category (so you can look for other
> > quality issues if you want)
> >
> >
> >
> > So if your library’s special interests is Egypt, then here’s an example
> of
> > a search for citations needed in Egypt articles
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=3&…
> > =
> >
> >
> >
> > That query (with depth 3) produced 845 articles. But if you want more,
> try
> > depth 4 (1465 results), then 5 (2186 results), etc (the greater the
> depth,
> > the slower the execution, but you probably have more than enough with
> 845
> > possible articles!
> >
> >
> >
> > I print these Petscan lists out, and progressively cut them up into some
> > single article strips (for the total beginner) and into some larger
> > multiple-article strips (for the not-beginner), put them in a “lucky
> dip”
> > box and let people draw out one or a group at random. Or let them choose
> > from a single big list (but get them to mark off the one they are doing
> so
> > people aren’t duplicating their effort or creating edit conflicts).
> Whether
> > or not they succeed in finding a citation, throw away that topic after
> > their attempt. Don’t let them spend too long on any one topic (there’s
> > plenty more articles if one proves difficult). It’s quite OK to focus on
> > the easy wins as it is a more positive experience for them and all
> > citations added benefit Wikipedia. (Aside, if your expert librarians
> can’t
> > find a citation in their area of special interest, it may be a hint to
> you
> > that maybe it’s time to remove that content from Wikipedia as perhaps no
> > citation does exist).
> >
> >
> >
> > If adding citations doesn’t appeal, then try away the whole
> > citation-needed idea and pursue a “let’s expand articles about your
> topics
> > of interests” or “let’s add photos from your collection” Call it
> > 1Lib1Expand or1Lib1Photo if you like. Explain that the campaign is just
> to
> > provide a focus for librarians to engage with Wikipedia. However they
> want
> > to engage is just fine. It’s all improving Wikipedia. Here’s an idea
> that
> > might appeal to other libraries:
> >
> >
> >
> > At State Library of Queensland last year, we had a sub-goal for
> 1Lib1Ref.
> > We said to ourselves that public libraries are important civic amenities
> > (and what librarian doesn’t believe that!) and that every public
> library
> > in Queensland therefore should be mentioned in the Wikipedia article for
> > that town/suburb/district. So we used
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/visit-us/find-a-public-library/browse-library-bra…
> >
> >
> >
> > as our lucky dip list and the pages linked from it and also this master
> > spreadsheet of other info about all public libraries as our sources
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.plconnect.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/388497/SLQ_…
> >
> >
> >
> > to add a few snippets about each public library (cited to the sources
> > above). We added the address of the library and who operates it and the
> > year it opened and anything special about that library that was worthy
> of
> > mention (e.g. special collections). So just a sentence or two with
> > citations. Thanks to 1Lib1Ref, we now have every Qld public library (and
> > its mobile libraries stop-off points) mentioned in the relevant
> Wikipedia
> > article. (The only catch is that it turned out that there were places
> with
> > public libraries but without Wikipedia articles – those were handed to
> me,
> > and I created a basic place article, and the library was thrown back in
> the
> > lucky dip jar when I had made the article.) Now the librarians involved
> > (about 40 of them who did about 25 edits each on average) really engaged
> > well with this; libraries are meaningful to them and so they saw value
> in
> > doing the task. When we finished doing public libraries, we started
> working
> > on lists of Qld schools (education matters to librarians too). I note
> that
> > we do 1Lib1Ref in “editathon” sessions and the librarians enjoy the
> social
> > aspect of that (although people are free to do it at their desks if they
> > prefer and many leave the editathon session with some extra lucky dip
> > topics saying they will do them at their desk or at home that night).
> OK,
> > this is not “traditional” 1Lib1Ref but let’s call it 1Lib1Lib or
> > 1Lib1School J
> >
> >
> >
> > So don’t see the format proposed for 1Lib1Ref as a straightjacket. It’s
> > just one way to engage librarians and Citation Hunt does provide a set
> of
> > tasks for the individual librarian who might be interested but who
> isn’t in
> > an outreach relationship. But if another way works better for the
> librarian
> > in an outreach situation (and particularly so if you are working with a
> > library rather than an individual librarian), then just do it that other
> > way. It’s the engagement that matters, not the format. No matter what
> they
> > do, they acquire some Wikipedia skills, which they might continue to
> use on
> > their own or be willing to use in another partnership or campaign. It’s
> a
> > first-step campaign. Once they have taken it, you need to work out what
> > step 2, 3, and 4 is for them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kerry
> >
> >
> >
> > *“I would like*, if I may, to *take you* on a *strange journey” – Rocky
> > Horror Picture Show*
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Libraries [mailto:libraries-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On
> > Behalf Of *Paulo Santos Perneta
> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 September 2018 10:54 PM
> > *To:* libraries(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [libraries] Meeting Librarians Soon. Help!
> >
> >
> >
> > Last #1lib1ref was not successful here: The librarians we've contacted
> > were not interested in fixing references for random articles, and they
> had
> > difficulties on understanding why they should get through all the
> trouble
> > of learning to edit Wikipedia just to fulfill the objective of 1 ref per
> > librarian.
> >
> >
> >
> > Probably in the next edition we'll be reformulating the contest locally
> to
> > make it more attractive to them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean-Philippe Béland <jpbeland(a)wikimedia.ca> escreveu no dia segunda,
> > 17/09/2018 à(s) 13:39:
> >
> > Hello Reem,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not a librarian, but what worked well with librarians here in
> Quebec,
> > Canada was the #1lib1ref campaign. We organized a little friendly
> > competition between different university and institutional libraries
> and it
> > was very successful in my opinion. We also invited students in relevant
> > university courses to participate and taught them how to add references
> to
> > Wikipedia. From what I have been told, since last year, the
> International
> > Federation of Library Association (IFLA) is actively supporting the
> > cooperation between libraries and WMF projects, especially through
> > #1lib1ref. I'm sure there are people more qualified than me on this
> mailing
> > list to explain to you what is #1lib1ref, but you can find information
> > about it on Meta-Wiki:
> >
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref.
> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref>
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you and good luck with your meeting!
> >
> >
> >
> > Jean-Philippe Béland
> >
> > Wikimédia Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Reem Al-Kashif <reemalkashif(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Hope this finds you well. I didn't plan on meeting librarians at a
> > university here in Cairo, Egypt, but they expressed interest in
> Wikipedia,
> > so we are meeting :). The problem is, I really don't know what
> activities
> > to offer them. I have zero experience in Wiki+libraries collaborations.
> It
> > would be more than great if anybody could help me out. What I need is:
> > 1. Understanding the nature of librarians work (I know it is a big
> topic,
> > but some general remarks would do).
> > 2. Having examples of activities they can be part of to contribute to
> Wiki
> > (be it Wikipedia or Wikimedia).
> >
> > 3. Understanding how rewarding those activities are (so that I explain
> to
> > them)
> > 4. Having examples of similar activities, if any, around the world.
> > Bonus point 5. Having a clear plan of action to give them (i.e. what do
> > we do after the meeting and so on)
> >
> > Thank you so so much in advance for helping me navigate this uncharted
> > territory.
> >
> > Best,
> > Reem
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif*
> >
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