Working on the cite book column now, thanks.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net> wrote:

OK, I'll work on this as I get time (I'm at a conference, so it won't be until next week). I'm going to take the "minimalist" approach, since MARC is "maximalist". If I find terms that I think are missing from the document there, I will add them.

It looks like this is only referring to books, so that's all that I will look at.

There will be conflicts with the datatypes, and no real way to resolve those. MARC "authors" are strings, not "items". In fact, everything in MARC is a string.

Another question: Do we assume that every field is repeatable?

Paula: I think that libraries are the only ones that consider corporations and conferences to be "authors" so I tend to put those in "contributor" fields.

kc

On 10/10/14, 4:41 AM, David Cuenca wrote:

Karen and Paula,
the best would be if you could continue filling up the excel table, I
created two extra columns, one for MARC and the other for {{cite book}}:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlPNcNlN2oqvdFQyR2F5YmhrMWpXaUFkWndQWUZyemc#gid=0

There you already have some equivalences with Wikidata properties.

Thanks!
Micru

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net
<mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote:

    I'm not as familiar with Wikidata as WP - are the citation
    "templates" the same? If so, I'll do some mapping. Where would it be
    best to put them?

    kc

    On 10/9/14, 3:47 PM, Paula Kate Marmor wrote:

        Please let me know how I can help with this mapping effort.

        On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo)
        <nemowiki@gmail.com <mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>
        <mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com <mailto:nemowiki@gmail.com>>> wrote:

             Karen Coyle, 05/10/2014 20:25:

                 Aubrey - there are a LOT of mappings there. Am I
        correct that
                 none of
                 them are mappings to the {{cite}} templates?

                 Having been steeped (if not petrified) in MARC21 for
        decades, I
                 could
                 attempt a mapping to the {{cite}} templates. It would
        cover books,
                 music, movies, possibly photographs, and maybe art works.
                 Articles are
                 not usually coded in MARC but a mapping could be made.


             Vlsergey offered to make a gadget to import MARC records into
             Wikidata entries! :D Please get in touch. Thanks both in
        advance, it
             will be great.

        <https://www.wikidata.org/w/____index.php?title=Wikidata_talk%____3AWikiProject_Books&diff=____162771850&oldid=162771302
        <https://www.wikidata.org/w/__index.php?title=Wikidata_talk%__3AWikiProject_Books&diff=__162771850&oldid=162771302>

        <https://www.wikidata.org/w/__index.php?title=Wikidata_talk%__3AWikiProject_Books&diff=__162771850&oldid=162771302
        <https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Wikidata_talk%3AWikiProject_Books&diff=162771850&oldid=162771302>>>

             Nemo

                 Note that there is a mapping in OpenLibrary from their
        books data
                 (derived from MARC but not in MARC), and with a single
        click you
                 get the
                 filled in book citation template for the book. I use
        this a lot.
                 Some of
                 us have been wishing that OCLC WorldCat would do the
        same. It makes
                 sense to have the mapping happen at the discovery point.


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