If OCLC and/or Wikmedia are interested in hosting something at Midwinter, I'd be happy to talk with you about whether LITA involvement is useful. (We'd need at least placeholder plans very soon though - it's well past the time that event metadata is supposed to be in the scheduling system, and people will be booking their flights soon.)

On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Proffitt,Merrilee <proffitm@oclc.org> wrote:

I hate to argue with Bob, or Daniel (or anyone frankly) but I’d like to weigh in and say that for MOST librarians, the most useful thing would be an overview and introduction to Wikipedia. This is the resource they are most familiar with (or think that they are….). Most librarians do not do cataloging or authority control and although they may be interested in this I do not think that Wikidata is a natural starting point for MOST librarians. And if you are talking about ALA you are talking about librarians of all stripes.

 

Start with the thing they already know about, demystify it for them, and leave them wanting more. There is plenty. Wikidata for some, Commons for others, and the Education track for others. But patrons start at Wikipedia and so should librarians.

 

I’m seeing if OCLC would be willing to help host something at ALA midwinter (I think the dates do not exactly line up with #1lib1ref, but that’s okay…)

 

Your librarian in residence,

 

Merrilee

 

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Folks,

I may be preaching to the choir, but I think that there are two important pieces for encouraging librarians in entering bibliographic data into & retrieving it from Wikidata .

The first would be some sort of web form that has multiple inputs with pre-determined properties such as Work, Edition, & Cataloging properties listed at :wikidata:Template:Book properties & :d:Wikidata:WikiProject Books . (especially the OCLC #!!!) While this may be contrary to the way things normally go into Wikidata, it could provide a format that I believe many librarians would find more user friendly. I write this as someone who once entered journal bibliographic data into a minicomputer-based online university catalog about 2½ decades ago. Some means for automatically loading MARC &/or OCLC data into Wikidata might also be a viable method, too.

The second would be to implement a citation module for placing data into articles. The French Wikipedia (& I have also heard the Arabic Wikipedia) has already done this. It would be truly beneficial to get this translated to the English Wikipedia, although it would be better yet if we could come up a means of putting the module on a repository that could be used across projects. I am neither fluent in Lua or French, so producing an English version is a challenge for me, otherwise I would do it.

Here's an example of how the French Wikipedia & Wikidata work together to produce a citation:

Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties item in Wikdata:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q23906197?uselang=en

 

The Modèle:Bibliographie (bibliographic template):
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Bibliographie

How the Wikimarkup looks for its use in Chocolat article ( {{bibliographie|Q23906197}} should be at the top):
https://fr.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chocolat&action=edit&section=50

What the end result looks like (Du chocolate : discours curieux divisé en quatre parties should be at the top):
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolat#Bibliographie

 

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Bob Kosovsky <bobkosovsky@nypl.org> wrote:

Great suggestion, Daniel.  I think there can should be a greater effort to promoting Wikidata among librarians with technical expertise because it is closer to what these librarians do (especially among catalogers and other tech types).  In sessions introducing editing Wikipedia that included librarians, I've seen the librarians express greater interest in Wikidata than the encyclopedia.

 

Bob

 


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On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Daniel Mietchen <daniel.mietchen@googlemail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Alex and Jake, for keeping the ball rolling on this.

Have you considered including a Wikidata component? In the long run, I
expect librarians to spend more of their Wikimedia time on Wikidata,
especially around
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Source_MetaData .

Cheers,
d.

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 8:38 PM, Alex Stinson <astinson@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hello Wikimedians!
>
>
> We are excited to finally start coordinating among #1lib1ref organizers this
> month.
>
>
> If you haven’t yet, we invite you to read the lessons that we learned from
> last year’s great campaign:
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref/Lessons
>
>
> As with last year, we hope to launch #1lib1ref on Wikipedia’s 16th birthday
> in January, asking librarians to “Give a birthday present to Wikipedia, by
> adding a reference”.
>
>
> What’s new?
>
>
> Last year we got a lot of feedback from librarians that they would have
> planned more activities if “they just had a bit more warning and time” so we
> are extending the campaign from eight days to 19 days, from January 15
> through February 3.
>
>
> We hope this does two things: a) it allows for several waves of
> communications and people adopting the campaign for local events and b) fits
> better with the start of the Spring Term at many universities in the
> Northern Hemisphere, where librarians are in demand for various activities.
>
>
> We also noticed last year a lot of social media about informal gatherings:
> librarians wanted to learn about Wikipedia socially at physical events. We
> think this is a great opportunity, so the Wikipedia Library team is
> developing a coffee hour kit that provides enough material to help
> librarians coordinate a small gathering, where they can talk about Wikipedia
> with their peers and add their one reference.
>
>
> The kit is going to include: a) recommendations for planning, b) a series of
> discussion questions, c) easy suggested activities, and d) a flyer template
> for promoting the event locally.  If you would like to help build the kit,
> or a new 1lib1ref logo, let us know.
>
>
> How you can help
>
>
> We hope the campaign offers a platform for engaging librarians in your
> region and context to learn more about Wikimedia projects. We know
> librarians use Wikipedia for a variety of purposes, but the campaign’s
> story--specifically how our references work--becomes a shared foundation for
> understanding and entering our community.  If you would like to coordinate
> #1lib1ref in your area, here are the main steps:
>
>
> Join the Wikipedia + Libraries Facebook group:
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikilibrary
>
> Fill out this survey:
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSflWCp9QkNbIZWXCWU02bp_FGCAua4Z6UaBj7P6Gcn1csT-6g/viewform
>
> Review Citation Hunt -- a volunteer-developed tool that allows for randomly
> being offered a citation. Check if your language is supported in the top
> right.
>
> URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/citationhunt/
>
> Report Bugs or request features or language support:
> https://github.com/eggpi/citationhunt/issues
>
> Review Hashtag Tracking -- a way to track edits made through the edit
> summary field.
>
> URL: https://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags
>
> Report bugs or request features or language support:
> https://github.com/hatnote/hashtags/issues/new
>
> Translate the campaign page to your local language. We want to have it ready
> for translation no later than November 10th and will notify you with an
> email that it’s ready.
>
> Begin reaching out to partners that you think will want to participate
> during the campaign through a) communications or b) activities.
>
>
> We look forward to collaborating with you!  Thanks so much for your help--it
> should be a lot of fun.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Alex Stinson
> Jake Orlowitz
>
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