Amqui, may you update us in relation to the request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw [1] and its community?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Atikame...
I do not know what you require exactly. The Atikamekw community is developing a Wikipedia on their language in the Incubator and Wikipedia in their language is used in at least one of their schools. A techno-linguiat from one of the communities is overseeing the Wikipedia in the Incubator to make sure its real and standardized Atikamekw language, he is also named "language keeper" of the community. The translation of the most used messages of MediaWiki is ongoing. The Conseil de la Nation Atikamekw (CNA) is involved and supports the project. The CNA is the council "federating" (for lack of a better term) all Atikamekw communities. The CNA also encompasses the Institut de la langue Atikamekw (ILA) that was responsible to standardize the language and they are also currently in the production of a dictionary.
The language is real and alive. It is used day to day on the three Atikamekw communities in Quebec, Canada. It is used as the only teaching languages in two elementary schools. As such, even though most Atikamekw people also speak French, it is really only their second language. I have confirmed that it is different from Cree and not just a dialect, they cannot understand them and vice versa. The language has its own ISO 639 code. There are experts who can confirm this. I can put you in contact with a techno linguist at the ILA. A linguist from the university of Leipzig is also involved in the project.
At this point I think the language should be marked as eligible. The project in the Incubator is not to be approved as it does not meet the requirements yet, but the language is definitely eligible in my opinion.
Thank you, Jean-Philippe Béland Vice president, Wikimedia Canada User:Amqui
Le ven. 20 janv. 2017 08:06, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com a écrit :
Amqui, may you update us in relation to the request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw [1] and its community?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Atikame...
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Great! I've made the project request eligible.
I saw your comment from 2013 [1], so I wanted to know if they moved to Cree Wikipedia or the request for the Wikipedia in their language should be proceeded.
[1] The Atikamekw language is already included in the Cree Wikipedia, see cr.wikipedia.org. We recently updated the main page to reflect the different languages that are part of the Cree language family (cr is in fact an ISO code for a macro-language which includes atj). There is currently no article in Atikamekw on this Wikipedia, most being in Eastern Cree right now. Please come discuss with me, or leave a message right on the Cree Wikipedia to know how to contribute in Atikamekw. I don't think this is a good idea to divide those in many different Wikipedias. That being said, I agree that we need to make it more simple to indicate the language/dialect of each article on the Cree Wikipedia, and updating the main page was the first step in that direction. We are currently cleaning the existing articles to sort them out. Right now is the good time to join and build the Atikamekw section of this Wikipedia. Thanks and don't hesitate to send me a message if you have any question. I also speak French if you prefer. Amqui (talk) 06:35, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland jpbeland@wikimedia.ca wrote:
I do not know what you require exactly. The Atikamekw community is developing a Wikipedia on their language in the Incubator and Wikipedia in their language is used in at least one of their schools. A techno-linguiat from one of the communities is overseeing the Wikipedia in the Incubator to make sure its real and standardized Atikamekw language, he is also named "language keeper" of the community. The translation of the most used messages of MediaWiki is ongoing. The Conseil de la Nation Atikamekw (CNA) is involved and supports the project. The CNA is the council "federating" (for lack of a better term) all Atikamekw communities. The CNA also encompasses the Institut de la langue Atikamekw (ILA) that was responsible to standardize the language and they are also currently in the production of a dictionary.
The language is real and alive. It is used day to day on the three Atikamekw communities in Quebec, Canada. It is used as the only teaching languages in two elementary schools. As such, even though most Atikamekw people also speak French, it is really only their second language. I have confirmed that it is different from Cree and not just a dialect, they cannot understand them and vice versa. The language has its own ISO 639 code. There are experts who can confirm this. I can put you in contact with a techno linguist at the ILA. A linguist from the university of Leipzig is also involved in the project.
At this point I think the language should be marked as eligible. The project in the Incubator is not to be approved as it does not meet the requirements yet, but the language is definitely eligible in my opinion.
Thank you, Jean-Philippe Béland Vice president, Wikimedia Canada User:Amqui
Le ven. 20 janv. 2017 08:06, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com a écrit :
Amqui, may you update us in relation to the request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw [1] and its community?
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Atikame...
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I have re-opened the request for their own language project. The Cree Wikipedia was a good temporary solution but they really require their own project as the language is different.
Thanks,
JP
Le lun. 23 janv. 2017 14:45, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com a écrit :
Great! I've made the project request eligible.
I saw your comment from 2013 [1], so I wanted to know if they moved to Cree Wikipedia or the request for the Wikipedia in their language should be proceeded.
[1] The Atikamekw language is already included in the Cree Wikipedia, see cr.wikipedia.org. We recently updated the main page to reflect the different languages that are part of the Cree language family (cr is in fact an ISO code for a macro-language which includes atj). There is currently no article in Atikamekw on this Wikipedia, most being in Eastern Cree right now. Please come discuss with me, or leave a message right on the Cree Wikipedia to know how to contribute in Atikamekw. I don't think this is a good idea to divide those in many different Wikipedias. That being said, I agree that we need to make it more simple to indicate the language/dialect of each article on the Cree Wikipedia, and updating the main page was the first step in that direction. We are currently cleaning the existing articles to sort them out. Right now is the good time to join and build the Atikamekw section of this Wikipedia. Thanks and don't hesitate to send me a message if you have any question. I also speak French if you prefer. Amqui (talk) 06:35, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Jean-Philippe Béland jpbeland@wikimedia.ca wrote:
I do not know what you require exactly. The Atikamekw community is developing a Wikipedia on their language in the Incubator and Wikipedia
in
their language is used in at least one of their schools. A
techno-linguiat
from one of the communities is overseeing the Wikipedia in the Incubator
to
make sure its real and standardized Atikamekw language, he is also named "language keeper" of the community. The translation of the most used messages of MediaWiki is ongoing. The Conseil de la Nation Atikamekw
(CNA)
is involved and supports the project. The CNA is the council "federating" (for lack of a better term) all Atikamekw communities. The CNA also encompasses the Institut de la langue Atikamekw (ILA) that was
responsible
to standardize the language and they are also currently in the
production of
a dictionary.
The language is real and alive. It is used day to day on the three
Atikamekw
communities in Quebec, Canada. It is used as the only teaching languages
in
two elementary schools. As such, even though most Atikamekw people also speak French, it is really only their second language. I have confirmed
that
it is different from Cree and not just a dialect, they cannot understand them and vice versa. The language has its own ISO 639 code. There are experts who can confirm this. I can put you in contact with a techno linguist at the ILA. A linguist from the university of Leipzig is also involved in the project.
At this point I think the language should be marked as eligible. The
project
in the Incubator is not to be approved as it does not meet the
requirements
yet, but the language is definitely eligible in my opinion.
Thank you, Jean-Philippe Béland Vice president, Wikimedia Canada User:Amqui
Le ven. 20 janv. 2017 08:06, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com a écrit :
Amqui, may you update us in relation to the request for Wikipedia in Atikamekw [1] and its community?
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Atikame...
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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