Here is an interesting request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kamassi...
They already created some pages on Incubator: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/xas/%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D...
"The last native speaker of the Kamassian dialect, Klavdiya Plotnikova, died in 1989. Kamassian was spoken in Russia, north of the Sayan Mountains, by Kamasins. There is an attempted revival of Kamassian with sligthly less than 10 people involved" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamassian_language
It's just another one of these "these words don't exist in this language so we're going to borrow all of them from Russian" projects, which they even state on their page "Also because all words are not documented in kamassian, all missing words we loaned from the russian language."
https://kamassian.webnode.fi/information/
That's not revitalizing a language, it's making a mockery of it. It's also the MO used in all the other small Finno-Ugric language incubator projects (or borrowing words from Finnish). Here's another one that he works on (https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/yrk/Main_Page). The front page is in Russian except for a few words of Nenets.
The fact that they couldn't wait for even approval does not also bode well.
-K
________________________________ From: Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:14 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee langcom@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Here is an interesting request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kamassi...
They already created some pages on Incubator: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/xas/%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D...
"The last native speaker of the Kamassian dialect, Klavdiya Plotnikova, died in 1989. Kamassian was spoken in Russia, north of the Sayan Mountains, by Kamasins. There is an attempted revival of Kamassian with sligthly less than 10 people involved" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamassian_language
Ugh. In that case I propose to deny eligibility (and then to get rid of the Incubator pages).
Am Mo., 23. Nov. 2020 um 01:10 Uhr schrieb Kimberli Mäkäräinen < kimberli.makarainen@tuni.fi>:
It's just another one of these "these words don't exist in this language so we're going to borrow all of them from Russian" projects, which they even state on their page "Also because all words are not documented in kamassian, all missing words we loaned from the russian language."
https://kamassian.webnode.fi/information/
That's not revitalizing a language, it's making a mockery of it. It's also the MO used in all the other small Finno-Ugric language incubator projects (or borrowing words from Finnish). Here's another one that he works on ( https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/yrk/Main_Page). The front page is in Russian except for a few words of Nenets.
The fact that they couldn't wait for even approval does not also bode well.
-K
*From:* Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:14 PM *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Here is an interesting request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kamassi...
They already created some pages on Incubator: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/xas/%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D...
"The last native speaker of the Kamassian dialect, Klavdiya Plotnikova, died in 1989. Kamassian was spoken in Russia, north of the Sayan Mountains, by Kamasins. There is an attempted revival of Kamassian with sligthly less than 10 people involved" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamassian_language _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Not that I want to re-open that very old can of worms, but I firmly believe that dead languages should only get a Wikisource and/or a Wiktionary. A Wikipedia on a language that no living soul has native competence in is ludicrous, and, yes, this includes Latin.
MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com, 23 Kas 2020 Pzt, 02:53 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
Ugh. In that case I propose to deny eligibility (and then to get rid of the Incubator pages).
Am Mo., 23. Nov. 2020 um 01:10 Uhr schrieb Kimberli Mäkäräinen < kimberli.makarainen@tuni.fi>:
It's just another one of these "these words don't exist in this language so we're going to borrow all of them from Russian" projects, which they even state on their page "Also because all words are not documented in kamassian, all missing words we loaned from the russian language."
https://kamassian.webnode.fi/information/
That's not revitalizing a language, it's making a mockery of it. It's also the MO used in all the other small Finno-Ugric language incubator projects (or borrowing words from Finnish). Here's another one that he works on (https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/yrk/Main_Page). The front page is in Russian except for a few words of Nenets.
The fact that they couldn't wait for even approval does not also bode well.
-K
*From:* Langcom langcom-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org on behalf of MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 7:14 PM *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee < langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject:* [Langcom] Wikipedia Kamassian
Here is an interesting request: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Kamassi...
They already created some pages on Incubator: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/xas/%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D...
"The last native speaker of the Kamassian dialect, Klavdiya Plotnikova, died in 1989. Kamassian was spoken in Russia, north of the Sayan Mountains, by Kamasins. There is an attempted revival of Kamassian with sligthly less than 10 people involved" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamassian_language _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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