Hoi, In Wikidata there is a property "title" is has a mandatory parameter in the language. It is also used for books and other publications... It is completely separate from the link to the Wiki .. it being English is totally irrelevant, it can be removed changed whatever from the Wikidata item. Thanks, Gerard On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 09:56, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il&gt; wrote: _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

O_o Why do we have multiple Incubator-like platforms again? Multilingual Wikisource is a model that has clearly been rendered obsolete by the technical demands of our movement, so it -- and Beta Wikiversity for that matter -- should be merged with the Incubator. Multilingual texts, if any, can be kept as duplicates in each relevant project. It's not like Wikipedia where people can work on and improve the content and maintaining multiple copies would be problematic. WS is a repository, so it's perfectly possible to not keep everything in the same bowl. Typological distinctions are extremely controversial to begin with, and we are not exactly helping ourselves with a container project that is not built on the ISO 639-3 system. Nicolas VIGNERON &lt;vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com&gt;om>, 24 Şub 2021 Çar, 13:49 tarihinde şunu yazdı: _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Hi, English is clearly and obviously wrong. "mul" or "und" are not perfect but far better (and "mul" seems to fit better I guess). Anyway, the multilingual wikisource is meant to be a temporary incubation so maybe we don't need perfect here as the point will solve itself eventually as the language gets its own Wikisource. @Gerard: yes title can easily be changed (or not used, whatever and what not) but here we are talking about the language of the sitelink (which also raises the question of the language of the website which is also "en" right now), and that part can't be changed by the user (and AFAIK is unique for a wikimedia project). Cheers, ~nicolas Le mer. 24 févr. 2021 à 13:28, Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com&gt; a écrit : _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Hi, "Why does Multilingual Wikisource exist" is a long and unrelated question (but to sum it very badly and quickly: Multilingual Wikisource is not just an incubator, it's also a kind of Meta for Wikisource and has some specific uses and extensions). That said, thanks Vito! It gave me an idea, I looked at the Incubator, Meta, Wikidata or Commons sitelinks in Wikidata : *the language of these sitelinks is also English* (see this SPARQL query https://w.wiki/32N5 <https://w.wiki/32N5> ). The problem is more general than just the Multilingual Wikisource... Cheers, ~nicolas Le mer. 24 févr. 2021 à 14:55, Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> a écrit : Hoi, You are right. One other solution could be to support it in the same way as Commons; without a language code. Thanks,       GerardM On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 13:49, Nicolas VIGNERON &lt;vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com <mailto:vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, English is clearly and obviously wrong. "mul" or "und" are not perfect but far better (and "mul" seems to fit better I guess). Anyway, the multilingual wikisource is meant to be a temporary incubation so maybe we don't need perfect here as the point will solve itself eventually as the language gets its own Wikisource. @Gerard: yes title can easily be changed (or not used, whatever and what not) but here we are talking about the language of the sitelink (which also raises the question of the language of the website which is also "en" right now), and that part can't be changed by the user (and AFAIK is unique for a wikimedia project). Cheers, ~nicolas Le mer. 24 févr. 2021 à 13:28, Gerard Meijssen &lt;gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> a écrit : Hoi, In Wikidata there is a property "title" is has a mandatory parameter in the language. It is also used for books and other publications... It is completely separate from the link to the Wiki .. it being English is totally irrelevant, it can be removed changed whatever from the Wikidata item. Thanks,        Gerard On Wed, 24 Feb 2021 at 09:56, Amir E. Aharoni &lt;amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il <mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote: Hi, Wikidata is adding support for sitelinks to the Multilingual Wikisource. There's a discussion there about which language should it use. Currently it's "en", which is not quite correct: technically, the site language of Multilingual Wikisource is English, but most of the content is in other languages. Ideally, each link should specify the language of the page to which it's linking, but currently this is not possible technically. Until it's possible, suggestions to use "und" or "mul" have been raised: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#languag… <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Contact_the_development_team#language_of_https://wikisource.org/_:_currently_%22en%22_(_phab:T138332)> I don't have an opinion about this myself. Does anyone else have thoughts about it? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com <http://aharoni.wordpress.com> ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬ _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom> _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom> _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom> _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom> _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

Am Mi., 24. Feb. 2021 um 17:10 Uhr schrieb Antony Green &lt;toniogreen(a)web.de <mailto:toniogreen@web.de>>: but ultimately the real reason is that the arcane and unpopular nature of the texts I'm interested in uploading have made me /persona non grata/ at German Wikisource. I think that's awfully sad! - But, to the original question, can someone tell me where the language code, whether en or mul/und part would appear at all? I don't understand what is being discussed. When I look at current interwiki links on WD, I see they have their language code next to it - surely the Multilingual Wikisource entries should not have "en" - is that the question here? _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom

I think that's awfully sad! - But, to the original question, can someone tell me where the language code, whether en or mul/und part would appear at all? I don't understand what is being discussed. When I look at current interwiki links on WD, I see they have their language code next to it - surely the Multilingual Wikisource entries should not have "en" - is that the question here?