Re: [Langcom] Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010 - Langcom

24 Jan 2018


      *   With respect to Western Armenian and Homshetsma, Oliver is entirely correct. By all means get an RFL in place for Western Armenian. But that is a different issue from Homshetsma.
  *   With respect to "close as stale" vs. "waiting/on hold": I think there is a misunderstanding here from some people:
     *   We're not suggesting doing anything to Incubator at all. We're not deleting test projects there that are stale. (See WP:NOTPAPER.)
     *   With respect to "Requests for new languages", once a project is eligible, it is eligible. We're not changing that, either.
     *   The ONLY thing being suggested is this: Where a "Request[] for new languages" was NEVER marked eligible, then if there has not been any follow-up by fluent speakers (for example, by creating an Incubator test), we will mark the request as "close as stale".
        *   Any/all such requests are either marked as "waiting/on hold" or were never changed from "discussion/open". All of these tests should have been marked as "waiting/on hold', except that nobody ever got around to doing that. And so in all the cases I am suggesting, we have waited 7+ years, and native (fluent) speakers never showed up. So I want to remove those from the request queue, clearly inviting anyone new to start fresh with a new request.
        *   I have recently marked a couple of requests like this as eligible, because speakers did show up.
I hope that clarifies things.
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1. Re: Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010
      (Oliver Stegen)
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:54:47 +0100
From: Oliver Stegen oliver_stegen@sil.org
To: langcom@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Langcom] Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the
        summer of 2010
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Scott,
we're aware of the ISO code proposal for Western Armenian. Actually, one
of our committee (Michael Everson) elicited the data at WMCon Berlin
2017 and wrote and submitted the proposal to the ISO committee. However,
that's Western Armenian and not Homshetsma. Hence, I understand it to be
right to reject the current proposal and then to open a new proposal for
all of Western Armenian.
Best wishes,
Oliver
On 22-Jan-18 17:05, C. Scott Ananian wrote:
...
Sorry I'm late to the conversation, but I did get a request from the
Armenian Wikimedia community at Wikimania 2016 specifically to assist
with the assignment of an ISO code for Western Armenian.  Closing the
proposal may be the right thing to do at this point, but it is a bit
of a chicken and egg issue wrt ISO codes.  I believe there is
significant community interest within the Armenian community if we
could break this logjam.
  --scott
On Jan 22, 2018 6:37 AM, "Steven White" <koala19890@hotmail.com
mailto:koala19890@hotmail.com> wrote:
Having heard no comments on the proposals with respect to Egyptian
and Homshetsma over the last seven days, I will close both as
rejected, as described in my original message.

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