To summarize: yes to eligibility and interface
translation?
2017-07-21 19:22 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen <oliver_stegen(a)sil.org
<mailto:oliver_stegen@sil.org>>:
I follow Gerard's line of argumentation and agree that there must
be enough documents in Coptic out there which aren't yet on the
web and would be a great playing field for Coptic Wikisource
editors. Hence I'm also in favour of localization.
+1
Oliver
On 21-Jul-17 14:19, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
I am all in favour of having a Wikisource to start off with. When
they have reasonable activity and a substantial part of the user
interface localised, I would even consider a Wikipedia.
Having a Wikisource is something I want to be liberal with; it is
a great way of producing tangible results for a language and it
is very much a project aimed at editors.. not much traffic to be
expected. The work though may be picked up elsewhere.
So yes to a Wikisource and yes to localisation.. Wikipedia maybe
when there is sustained activity.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 21 July 2017 at 09:46, Amir E. Aharoni
<amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il
<mailto:amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
Hi,
Apparently there is some activity in the Coptic Incubator
Wikipedia:
portal:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cop
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cop>
activity:
https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/cop…
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/cop&wiki=incubatorwiki#distribution_2017-02>
request:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Coptic…
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Coptic_3>
And there's a request to translate MediaWiki into this language:
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incubator:Community_Porta…
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Incubator:Community_Portal&oldid=4099303#Translatewiki>
However, translatewiki and UniversalLanguageSelector are not
yet enabled in this language. As far as I know, the language
is not exactly alive as a modern language. It's definitely
eligible for Wikisource, so it can be in the
UniversalLanguageSelector (although I need to make sure what
is the autonym - "ϯⲙⲉⲧⲣⲉⲙⲛ̀ⲭⲏⲙⲓ"?).
But what about a Wikipedia, and what about translating the
MediaWiki user interface strings into it? These would
probably be revivalist projects because there are no L1 speakers.
If it's not eligible, I'd rather not enable it on
translatewiki. Personally, I would support marking it as
eligible, but are there other opinions?
It was already rejected in 2008:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Coptic…
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Coptic_2>
... But that was long ago, and maybe it's worth reconsidering?
Thank you!
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