I read it and I don't see there anything that clearly convinces me that
this language is distinct enough.
For example, it's not quite clear to me whether the different letters are
actually used by the general public, by newspapers, and by writers, and
whether they are used when teaching literacy.
It often happens that language academies standardize something, and the new
standard has some fans, but it is not actually used by the general public.
If, for example, I had a reliable source that says that more than half a
million people in Montenegro want to read and write with Ś and Ź and with
the other special Montenegrin spelling rules, and the admins on the sr and
sh Wikipedias are preventing them from doing this, then I'd say that
something should be done about it. I can think of two examples of what
*could* be done:
1. Convince the admins of sr or sh Wikipedia to be more accepting of
different spelling standards, as it is already done in English, Portuguese,
Alemannic, Catalan, and other languages. I'm not familiar with a process to
enforce this, and I'm just fantasizing, but it's an imaginable option. The
fact that bs and hr Wikipedias already exist doesn't mean that more
proliferation is needed.
2. Agree to create a cnr.wikipedia.org
There can be more things that could be done. But it would really depend on
Do Montenegrin schoolchildren learn literacy differently? Do Montenegrin
people use Ś and Ź in WhatsApp messages?
Do they use search engines like Google, Bing, and Yandex with Ś and Ź, and
with a significantly different spelling? If they do, do the search engines
fail to find relevant Wikipedia articles?
I'm trying to be practical and think about the general public of speakers.
If the current setup of Wikipedia projects leaves out more than half a
million Montenegrins, this needs to be fixed. If it only leaves out several
dozens of people who want to promote a new spelling standard, even if this
standard has its own ISO code, than I'm inclined not to change anything.
Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2018-01-14 3:01 GMT+02:00 Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>om>:
I want to bring to the committee’s attention that an
enormous amount has
been written at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_
languages/Wikipedia_Montenegrin_5, as well as its talk page. You owe it
to the community to review what has been written there. Most (though not
all) of what has been written has been about the questions (a) how unique
is Montenegrin within the Serbo-Croatian language, and (b) how welcome do
Montenegrins feel to participate in the existing projects. Thank you for
your active involvement.
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