Ok, Since we do not have any disagreements, as per our usual process, I will inform board about the decision that we approve Konkani wikipedia with Devanagari scriptThanksSanthosh ThottingalOn Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:GerardThanks,Hoi,I am a long time proponent for this. So yes PLEASEOn 7 March 2015 at 07:49, Oliver Stegen <info@oliverstegen.net> wrote:I have no inhibitions or restraints against making the Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia live.
As far as I understand, current policy is to discourage communities from having separate wikipedias for different scripts of the same language. However, I'd be happy to see Konkani-Latin and Konkani-Kannada on the incubator. A decision can then ensue whether these projects then become subpages of the Konkani-Devanagri wikipedia (for example like Suebian, Allemannic etc on the Southwestern Germanic dialect wikipedia), or whether WMF makes an exception in allowing separate wiki spaces for those three scripts. Such a later decision, imho, does not prevent a live wikipedia for the Devanagri script at this point in time.
Best wishes,
Oliver
On 07-Mar-15 8:05 AM, Santhosh Thottingal wrote:
Shall we make a decision on this? Community is waiting and they pinged me. I am all for approving this.Is there any more concerns we need to address?
ThanksSanthosh
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Santhosh Thottingal <santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com> wrote:
Vishnu clarified the request details in the below mail I quoted.
(it came as moderation request to me, but I don't see it in approval queue. weird )
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From: Vishnu <vishnu@cis-india.org>
To: langcom@lists.wikimedia.org
Cc:
Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:32:27 +0530
Subject: Re: [Langcom] [Langcom-l] Konkani
Dear Santhosh, MF-Warburg and other LangCom members,
Yes, the current request from the Konkani Wikipedia community is to make the Konkani Wikipedia live in the *Devanagari script*. It has been mentioned in the request page on Meta and I have now highlighted it.[0]
Of course, the community also wants the LangCom to consider incubating separate Konkani Wikipedia projects in Romi (i.e. Latin script) and Kannada scripts - two other popular variants of Konkani. This will ensure that the rich diversity of Konkani language and the knowledge in all these three major script variants will flourish along with the associated communities.
If I may be allowed, I would like to bring to the notice of the LangCom members that CIS-A2K[1] has been putting focussed efforts on Konkani Wikipedia and has managed to nurture and grow a volunteer community that is now sustainable.
The multiple scripts (Konkani is written in 5 scripts) has been a great challenge to understand and work with, especially when each script variant is tied to specific religious and regional community and has significant variations. We have left no stone unturned in objectively finding a practical solution to this multiple script issue, including a script converter. In this process we have consulted Konkani Wikipedians, Konkani linguists, professors from Konkani Department at Goa University, Konkani cultural experts, bureaucrats in the government, media personnel and arrived at the conclusion of having separate Wiki projects for each of the three script variants (i.e. Devanagari, Romi (Latin) and Kannada).
We have also requested Fr. Pratap Naik [2] a notable linguist, who has worked on all the script variants of Konkani language for many years to give his expert opinion in writing, which is available here [3]. This note has been widely circulated and everyone, including the currently active Konkani Wikipedians (majority of which edits in Devanagari variant) believe that having three Konkani Wikipedias for the three script variants is the way to go.
*May I reiterate that the current request is to only make the Konkani Wikipedia, in Devanagari, live.*
It's been a huge personal learning for me about this rich language and culture and I have some intimate context [4] on the multiple scripts issue and would be happy to answer questions if the committee has any. I am reasonably positive that we will see three active Konkani Wikipedias soon. Having the Devanagari one live will only create a healthy competition.
Thanks,
Vishnu
CIS-A2K, Programme Director
[0] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Konkani_2
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_July_2014_-_June_2015/Konkani
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratap_Naik
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Access_To_Knowledge/Konkani_Wikipedia
[4] http://www.sfxkutamuae.com/news.asp?id=8698 (I have since then been invited to be part of the Konkani Language Planning-Steering Committee by the Global Konkani Conclave)
ThanksSanthosh
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