See here
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:SPQRobin#luri_lrc_verified_with_a_proffesor>,
it seems they have been trying to contact you guys for the verification.
On 5/1/2015 8:25 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
After I researched, I found a lot of articles
around the Internet
only written in Persian by a person named Gholamreza Mehramooz
(Persian: غلامرضا مهرآموز, pronounced: [ɣolɒːmɾezɒː mehɾɒːmuːz
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Persian>) about Luri
languages. After I contacted Mohammad Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor), it
seems like Mr. Mehramooz actually is a university professor and he
has PhD, and he has been contributing to Northern Luri Wikipedia
under user name User:Mehramooz, please contact him for the
verification.
On 4/28/2015 1:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
> Have we passed step #1 yet? i.e. has Northern Luri fulfilled the
> requirements for leaving the incubator?
> If yes, is the aforementioned Erik Anonby an acceptable reference?
> I've actually met him several years ago at a linguistics
> conference, so if we all agree that we've concluded step #1, I'd
> be happy to contact him to see whether he himself could verify
> Northern Luri or whether he could recommend someone else to do so
> for us.
>
> Fwiw,
> Oliver
>
> On 28-Apr-15 1:15 AM, Asaf Bartov wrote:
>> Thanks, that sounds perfectly reasonable. Is there an owner to
>> the process, e.g. a committee secretary, to ensure that in case
>> of silence after asking #2, there is actual progress toward #3,
>> so that it doesn't fall between the cracks?
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 2:38 PM, MF-Warburg
>> <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com <mailto:mfwarburg@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> We obviously discuss
>> 1. whether at this stage we need to verify the content at all
>> 2. if yes, whether someone knows an expert already
>> 3. if no, whom to contact.
>> Then we contact people.
>>
>> 2015-04-27 22:51 GMT+02:00 Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org
>> <mailto:abartov@wikimedia.org>>:
>>
>> I'm not clear on the committee's process: Is it the
>> expectation of this committee that nothing will happen
>> until Someone<tm> produces expert testimony confirming
>> that the content currently in the Northern Luri Wikipedia
>> is in fact Northern Luri? Or is the committee taking any
>> steps to secure such testimony?
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Gerard Meijssen
>> <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com
>> <mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hoi,
>> Reading an article does not make us an expert.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 27 April 2015 at 15:17, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Here's the article I found titled "Update on
>> Luri: How many languages?" by Erik John Anonby:
>> original link
>>
<http://anonby.balafon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jra-172-171-197.pdf>,
>> you can see on the figure #2, said
>> "Luri-Lurestani-khorramabadi" is the main dialect
>> and "Luri-Borujerdi" is the other dialect of
>> Northern Luri (lrc), and on the figure #3 shown
>> west of current Iran's map, said "Lurestani" is
>> the main area of Northern Luri (lrc), lower on
>> these dialects is "Laki" on the figure #2 sands
>> for Laki language (lki) , and "Laki" area on the
>> figure #3. On the figure #2 upper of Northern
>> Luri (lrc) dialects you can see the "Bakhtiari"
>> (bqi) dialects and "Kohkiloyeh" and
"Bouyerahmad"
>> (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages #186 to
>> #197 you can compares the example differences
>> between these languages.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
>>> As I mentioned also concerning Western Balochi,
>>> we need an outside scholar / linguist / language
>>> expert for verification purposes. Any useful
>>> bona-fide contacts?
>>>
>>> On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
>>>> This
>>>>
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
>>>> is the list of top articles was provided by
>>>> Mogoeilor, even he named the language of this
>>>> wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page,
>>>> and I didn't see that.
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>> A longstanding requirement for any and all
>>>>>> languages is that they have to have an
>>>>>> ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language
>>>>>> not a macro language.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr
>>>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no such thing as they are a
>>>>>> resources of world's languages, people
>>>>>> are the resources and they only
>>>>>> maintainer code, the unified codes that
>>>>>> the world uses. Is there any confirmation
>>>>>> of Luri Wikipedia yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
>>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>>> Ethnologue is the maintainer of the
>>>>>>> ISO-639-3. As such they are an
authority.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr
>>>>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're right, I can't trust a
self
>>>>>>> verification too, but what do you
>>>>>>> expect me do to?, you can probably
>>>>>>> find a lot of trustable resources on
>>>>>>> the Internet, I my self can't
even
>>>>>>> trust ethnologue, because I found
>>>>>>> unuseful information on it and I
>>>>>>> don't know where they come from,
at
>>>>>>> least in Wikipedia, we have
>>>>>>> resources, I didn't expect that
from
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard
>>>>>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>>>> Wikipedia is in this not an
>>>>>>>> authority. It has never been.
>>>>>>>> Again, self certification does
not
>>>>>>>> work for me.. We have been hurt
by
>>>>>>>> that before.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr
>>>>>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alright then, that's
Northern
>>>>>>>> Luri, fair enough, I
didn't
>>>>>>>> have any knowledge that
there
>>>>>>>> is a southern dialect of it
and
>>>>>>>> people of Kohgiluyeh and
>>>>>>>> Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak
>>>>>>>> that, I only knew Lorestan,
but
>>>>>>>> per English wikipedia,
they're
>>>>>>>> dialects of Northern Luri
which
>>>>>>>> this wiki is written in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard
>>>>>>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>>>>> Check this out ...
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It rather complicates
>>>>>>>>> things... By the way
self
>>>>>>>>> certification is not a
good idea.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at
22:45,
>>>>>>>>> Mjbmr
<mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes. 100%, as I live
Iran
>>>>>>>>> and I know some parts
of
>>>>>>>>> this language, it is
>>>>>>>>> definitely Luri.
Mohammad
>>>>>>>>> Mogoei
(User:Mogoeilor)
>>>>>>>>> the most active user
of
>>>>>>>>> this project is from
>>>>>>>>> Lorestan so
definitely he
>>>>>>>>> speaks in this
language
>>>>>>>>> every day. In Iran
it's
>>>>>>>>> called Luri, some
people
>>>>>>>>> call it Lurish
>>>>>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
>>>>>>>>> as the translation
for
>>>>>>>>> English, per this
>>>>>>>>>
<http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc>
>>>>>>>>> the language should
be
>>>>>>>>> called Northern Luri,
but
>>>>>>>>> none of it dialects
are
>>>>>>>>> called Luri, so I
call it
>>>>>>>>> Luri too. I have
also
>>>>>>>>> submitted and now
accepted
>>>>>>>>> a ticket to CLDR to
>>>>>>>>> support this
language.
>>>>>>>>> Other proposal of
dialects
>>>>>>>>> of this language
like
>>>>>>>>> Bakhtiari
>>>>>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
>>>>>>>>> failed because of
being a
>>>>>>>>> part of this
language.
>>>>>>>>> Also they list of
article
>>>>>>>>> I've just
provided are the
>>>>>>>>> best of them as you
can
>>>>>>>>> see there are no
Persian
>>>>>>>>> words in them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/2015 12:37
AM,
>>>>>>>>> Gerard Meijssen
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>>>>>> Do we have
confirmation
>>>>>>>>>> that it is indeed
Luri ?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 24 April 2015
at
>>>>>>>>>> 20:42, Mjbmr
>>>>>>>>>>
<mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ask langcom
members
>>>>>>>>>> for approval
of Luri
>>>>>>>>>> Wikipedia,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here are some
top
>>>>>>>>>> articles I
could
>>>>>>>>>> list, but
there are
>>>>>>>>>> more of them
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. استیو
جابز
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
>>>>>>>>>> (Steve
Jobs)
>>>>>>>>>> 2. آلورت
انیشتین
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
>>>>>>>>>> (Albert
Einstein)
>>>>>>>>>> 3. کلمبیا
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7>
>>>>>>>>>>
(Colombia)
>>>>>>>>>> 4. شهید
چمران
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
>>>>>>>>>> (Mostafa
Chamran)
>>>>>>>>>> 5. شایا
عیلامی
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
>>>>>>>>>> (List of
rulers
>>>>>>>>>> of Elam)
>>>>>>>>>> 6. کارلوس
فوئنتس
>>>>>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
>>>>>>>>>> (Carlos
Fuentes)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Analysis
>>>>>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
>>>>>>>>>> shows that
this
>>>>>>>>>> project has
enough
>>>>>>>>>> users and
most of
>>>>>>>>>> mediawiki
message
>>>>>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
>>>>>>>>>> been
translated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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