Hoi,
Current policy is that most if not all messages need to be translated.That
is unlikely to happen for Neapolitan. For Wikisource it does matter not
that much because it is mostly effective as a tool.
The notion that it currently works within the Italian Wikisource is not
really an argument. It matters what language Wikisource is because it
allows for defaults specific for that language.
The notion that some peopl think that a language is a dialect is not here
or there. It is utterly irrelevant.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 8 August 2015 at 06:10, Oliver Stegen <info(a)oliverstegen.net> wrote:
Surprise, surprise!
When you write "I am of the opinion that we may rethink our policy", does
that mean that our current policy actually *is* that secondary projects are
automatically granted without discussion by LangCom? If that is the case,
why hasn't nap.wikisource been granted long ago? Who's responsible for
changing secondary projects from incubator to wiki.org?
Sorry about my ignorance but I really would like to know.
Fwiw,
Oliver
On 06-Aug-15 12:31 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
It is exactly one of the competences of the Language committee to allow
for new projects. With the stagnant affairs of new secondary projects, I am
of the opinion that we may rethink our policy. Currently a large part of
all the messages need to be translated. I doubt that it can be seriously
expected to happen for nap.wikisource. At the same time I would personally
welcome it for the value that it brings.
Thanks,
GerarddM
On 6 August 2015 at 11:18, Oliver Stegen <info(a)oliverstegen.net> wrote:
As far as I know, the acceptance of an additional
wiki-product is not
within LangCom's activities; only first-ever wiki-products in a new
language are. As Neapolitan has a wikipedia already, wikisource should be
granted automatically if all requirements are fulfilled. No discussion and
explicit approval by LangCom should be needed.
Best wishes,
Oliver Stegen
On 06-Aug-15 12:18 AM, C. Russo wrote:
I want to bring to the attention of the Langcom that there is an application
for a neapolitan wikisource
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Neapolitan>
pending evaluation since 2011.
The status of the neapolitan wikisource project is as follows:
- More than 2500 proofread pages
- Three or more contributors during the last 8 months
- Two or more contributors working intensively during more than 1 year
- Core localisation complete, proofread complete, extensions at 30% and
growing
- Third biggest language in mul.wikisource by number of pages and growing
- First language in mul.wikisource with a request on hold
- Iso code and long-term running wikipedia
We need the project to be activated:
- We'll provide better tools within our own language domain
- We'll provide better access to our native speakers and literates
- It is a minority language and time passes while the speaking population
gets older (and the contributors too)
- We'll provide easy access to the humanity to the public domain in our
language. This is now simply getting diluted into mul.wikisource,
it.wikisource or en.wikisource, just as our books and songs are diluted and
lost into the libraries of all over the world.
If approved and opened tomorrow it would be already more active and big
than many other open wikisources.
Thanks for the attention,
C.R.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Neapo…
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