In May 2015, I had contacted Erik Anonby, a Canadian linguist with
specialty in Iranian languages, and he actually verified the contents of
lrc:wp (then still in the incubator). It was him who also provided
contact for Mehdi Moshkriz who is now maligned by fa:wp editors. [Btw, I
do not find Amir Ladsgroup's English much better than Mogoeilor's.]
I actually assume that this is a predominantly political issue, and I
would caution against allowing fa:wp editors to interfere in lrc:wp
issues - especially when we already have independent verification from a
bona fide Canadian (i.e. non-Persian!) scholar. I append his reply fyi.
from Erik Anonby's reply (May 2015):
"I know Bakhtiari and Southern Luri a lot better than Northern Luri –
most of my knowledge of N Luri is lexicon and phonology rather than
But from looking at several articles, it looks well-enough written to
me. There are some quirky orthographic things (like splitting the –e
“is” / direct object suffix) off of words, but many fewer issues than a
lot of the other homemade scripts I’ve seen used for Luri.
The author is also using Khorramabadi dialect, which is the central
dialect but heavily influenced by Persian and not typical of the
language as a whole. He could still use this dialect but with a bit of
accommodation to the language as a whole; for example, it’s a bit of a
shame he doesn’t use Luri verb prefixes like present/continuous i-
(which is used pretty much everywhere other than in Khorramabad) rather
than Khorramabadi mi- (which is from Persian).
Two scholars who could verify the content (naturalness, spelling, etc.)
better than me are:
Sekandar Amanollahi (retired; I don’t have his contact info)
Mehdi Moshkriz (at Iranshahr University until recently; his email is [...])
Mehdi is very nice and could probably put you in touch with many other
Luri scholars, too, to check the articles."
On 31-Jan-16 9:02 PM, MF-Warburg wrote:
It's very embarrassing for us if that is true.
Is it possible that the language used is not Northern Lurish, but at
least correct Central L.?
Do we have any other contacts in the linguistic world who could help
I agree that the wiki ought to be closed if it's not in a real language.
Am 30.01.2016 02:46 schrieb "Amir Ladsgroup" <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com
Several days ago a discussion
has been started in Persian Wikipedia regarding Northern Luri
If I want to give you a summary of the discussion. Mostly they say
script is unreadable (it's greatly different than Persian script)
and also they noted that vocabulary is tried to be away of Persian
(and close to Kuridsh) in a bad way and thus it's
un-understandable for people who talk this variant of Luri (As it
was mentioned this Luri is being spoken in Khoramabbad and
Broujerd, two big cities of Iran). We can confirm that we showed
this wiki to several people who speak Luri and in either
Khoramabad or Boroujerd. None of them could understand most of
content of this wiki. We also provided a big table at the
discussion in Persian Wikipedia and compared several words in the
wiki to what they actually speak in Northern Luri.
I found this
which User:Mogoeilor told you that Gholamreza Mehramooz
(User:Mehramooz) is a university professor with PhD and
interestingly when we asked about the script in that wiki
User:Mogoeilor (the same person) told us the script is made up by
a User:Mehramooz because he has MSc in linguistics (edit
. More interestingly in his blog he says he has a MSc in
translation studies (published about a year and half ago
<http://www.zistrah.blogfa.com/post/16>) You can verify the blog
in his user page.
: Also an interesting conversation
happened in this wiki in Persian. It seems they changed named of
the wiki from Northern Luri to Minjaii Luri "Minjaii" is a word in
Luri that in English means "Centeral Luri"
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