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Today's Topics:

   1. Noongar Wikipedia (Steven White)
   2. Approval for Pashto Wikivoyage (Satdeep Gill)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 13:52:16 +0000
From: Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.com>
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Subject: [Langcom] Noongar Wikipedia
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User:OosWesThoesBes, who is a sysop and active contributor on Incubator and Multilingual Wikisource, has been collaborating with User:Gnangarra of the Noongar project.  They make the following comment and suggestion:


The main issue here seems to lie in two things: 1. the desire to spread/record knowledge of the local culture; 2. the inability of many tribal people (no offense meant, I'm not from Australia, nor am I a native English speaker, so please do correct my terminology [I'd use "aboriginal"–SJW]) to speak or understand the Nyungar language fluently. A simple solution to this would be the creation of a separate namespace in which English translations are provided, while the pages themselves are written in Nyungar. This will keep the main namespace free of English, while the knowledge to the culture is still available to those interested, who are not able to understand or have difficulty understanding the language itself. This way, the Wikipedia can be used both to spread the knowledge of the Nyungar culture, as well as providing a base for a broad encyclopedia written in the Nyungar language about all subjects.

In response to a question from MF-Warburg, Gnangarra promises that all articles will be completely written in Nyungar as well as in English. And OosWesThoesBes has committed to help with the implementation.

It seems to me that this solution would satisfy LangCom's requirement that the project be written in Nyungar, as well as the community's desire that there also be English available to support wider dissemination of information.

I'd request the Committee's comments/opinions on this idea.

Steven


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 May 2018 01:23:08 +0530
From: Satdeep Gill <satdeepgill@gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
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Subject: [Langcom] Approval for Pashto Wikivoyage
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Hello everyone,

Pashto Wikivoyage [1] community has been working regularly for the past 9
months with more than 3 editors per month (even 7 editors in some months)
[2]. There are more than 300 pages as of now. In my opinion, we should
approve this project now. We should not need approval from an expert since
Pashto Wikipedia exists already.

1.
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikivoyage_Pashto&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1b4eff9ba6764c2e1e4508d5bd8026c6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636623280460577569&sdata=7X9lCFTHy3T%2B4YgmCsVXm60R0X6mfyZUEslqPiN7Szc%3D&reserved=0
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https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftools.wmflabs.org%2Fmeta%2Fcatanalysis%2Findex.php%3Fcat%3D0%26title%3Dwy%2Fps%26wiki%3Dincubatorwiki&data=02%7C01%7C%7C1b4eff9ba6764c2e1e4508d5bd8026c6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636623280460577569&sdata=nG3S%2FoVz1AA5cU9HwsbCfkLhld2D5xuIFT%2F1raVh7HQ%3D&reserved=0

Regards
Satdeep Gill

Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians
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