As I mentioned also
concerning Western Balochi,
we need an outside scholar / linguist / language
expert for verification purposes. Any useful
bona-fide contacts?
On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
This
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
is the list of top articles was provided by
Mogoeilor, even he named the language of this
wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page,
and I didn't see that.
On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
> Yes.
>
> On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> A longstanding requirement for any and all
>> languages is that they have to have an
>> ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language
>> not a macro language.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr
>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> There is no such thing as they are a
>> resources of world's languages, people
>> are the resources and they only
>> maintainer code, the unified codes that
>> the world uses. Is there any confirmation
>> of Luri Wikipedia yet?
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>> Hoi,
>>> Ethnologue is the maintainer of the
>>> ISO-639-3. As such they are an authority.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr
>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right, I can't trust a self
>>> verification too, but what do you
>>> expect me do to?, you can probably
>>> find a lot of trustable resources on
>>> the Internet, I my self can't even
>>> trust ethnologue, because I found
>>> unuseful information on it and I
>>> don't know where they come from, at
>>> least in Wikipedia, we have
>>> resources, I didn't expect that from
>>> you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard
>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> Wikipedia is in this not an
>>>> authority. It has never been.
>>>> Again, self certification does not
>>>> work for me.. We have been hurt by
>>>> that before.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> GerardM
>>>>
>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr
>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alright then, that's Northern
>>>> Luri, fair enough, I didn't
>>>> have any knowledge that there
>>>> is a southern dialect of it and
>>>> people of Kohgiluyeh and
>>>> Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak
>>>> that, I only knew Lorestan, but
>>>> per English wikipedia, they're
>>>> dialects of Northern Luri which
>>>> this wiki is written in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard
>>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>> Check this out ...
>>>>>
http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
>>>>>
>>>>> It rather complicates
>>>>> things... By the way self
>>>>> certification is not a good idea.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 22:45,
>>>>> Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. 100%, as I live Iran
>>>>> and I know some parts of
>>>>> this language, it is
>>>>> definitely Luri. Mohammad
>>>>> Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor)
>>>>> the most active user of
>>>>> this project is from
>>>>> Lorestan so definitely he
>>>>> speaks in this language
>>>>> every day. In Iran it's
>>>>> called Luri, some people
>>>>> call it Lurish
>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
>>>>> as the translation for
>>>>> English, per this
>>>>>
<http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc>
>>>>> the language should be
>>>>> called Northern Luri, but
>>>>> none of it dialects are
>>>>> called Luri, so I call it
>>>>> Luri too. I have also
>>>>> submitted and now accepted
>>>>> a ticket to CLDR to
>>>>> support this language.
>>>>> Other proposal of dialects
>>>>> of this language like
>>>>> Bakhtiari
>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
>>>>> failed because of being a
>>>>> part of this language.
>>>>> Also they list of article
>>>>> I've just provided are the
>>>>> best of them as you can
>>>>> see there are no Persian
>>>>> words in them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM,
>>>>> Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>> Do we have confirmation
>>>>>> that it is indeed Luri ?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at
>>>>>> 20:42, Mjbmr
>>>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask langcom members
>>>>>> for approval of Luri
>>>>>> Wikipedia,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here are some top
>>>>>> articles I could
>>>>>> list, but there are
>>>>>> more of them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. استیو جابز
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
>>>>>> (Steve Jobs)
>>>>>> 2. آلورت انیشتین
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Albert Einstein)
>>>>>> 3. کلمبیا
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7>
>>>>>> (Colombia)
>>>>>> 4. شهید چمران
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Mostafa Chamran)
>>>>>> 5. شایا عیلامی
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
>>>>>> (List of rulers
>>>>>> of Elam)
>>>>>> 6. کارلوس فوئنتس
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
>>>>>> (Carlos Fuentes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Analysis
>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
>>>>>> shows that this
>>>>>> project has enough
>>>>>> users and most of
>>>>>> mediawiki message
>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
>>>>>> been translated.
>>>>>>
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