Re: [Langcom] Langcom Digest, Vol 46, Issue 23

I do think that the community will improve content as the time progresses. The community has been working hard on translation as well. But I do see some pages which are not written well and contain machine translations. Such as <http://goog_1512637911> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/%E0%A4%90%E0%A4%B0%E0%A5%8 B%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%AA%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B8_%E0%A4%87%E0% A4%82%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A8%E0%A5%80%E0%A4%AF%E0%A4%B0% E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%82%E0%A4%97 Regards Satdeep Gill Strategy Coordinator, Wikimedia Foundation <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Track_B#SGill_.28WMF.29> Co-founder, Punjabi Wikimedians <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Punjabi_Wikimedians> Treasurer, Affiliations Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee> Member, Language Committee <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee> On 25 June 2017 at 01:08, Jay prakash &lt;0freerunning(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > [https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Computer_graphics/2013-2014 > /Page_footer] > See Here. > > On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed &lt;mmorshe2(a)illinois.edu&gt; wrote: > > Well, the part in [brackets] was "the lack of effort to even > localize the > > comments in the code samples" and I did mention that it was being > addressed > > slowly. My apologies for failing to provide a direct link to an > example. > > > > I also now see that the email address is in fact yours. I am not > sure that > > there is any precedent elsewhere for such byline templates on other > > Wikimedia projects. > > > > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Jay prakash &lt;0freerunning(a)gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> You are showing it that you will not see all those links which I > have > >> cleaned like it [https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर > >> ग्राफिक्स/2013-14/जीओजीएल-टेम्पलेट]. > >> > >> On 6/25/17, Mahir Morshed &lt;mmorshe2(a)illinois.edu&gt; wrote: > >> > To piggyback on what Justin is saying (and also via Phabricator: > >> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168765#3376191): > >> > > >> > I am not a Hindi speaker, but I can at least discern Devanagari > text > >> > and > >> > the English loanwords in it. Justin's first link is to > >> > "Category:Intelligence" with subcategory "Artificial > intelligence". His > >> > second link (Computer Programming/IDE/Visual Basic .NET/...) > bears only > >> > a > >> > link to a Japanese online IDE. His third link (Computer > >> > Graphics/2013-2014/"Page Foot", a page footer which is transcluded > >> > elsewhere) has an email address prefixed with a link to > >> > @Jayprakash12345 > >> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/p/Jayprakash12345/>'s > >> userpage--maybe it > >> > is his own email address? > >> > > >> > The problems of most pages only consisting of source code is > indeed > >> > inherited from the English Wikiversity courses to which the pages > are > >> > linked. Nevertheless, from seeing at least [the lack of effort to > even > >> > localize the comments in the code samples], and perhaps from > seeing the > >> > lack of something more substantial in the way of content revolving > >> > around > >> > those code samples, and perhaps more so from Jayprakash12345 > being the > >> only > >> > consistent contributor going back at least a month, I must thus > agree > >> with > >> > his assessment that opening hiwikiversity would be a disaster. My > >> personal > >> > opinion is that other Hindi projects (such as hiwikisource and > >> hiwikiquote) > >> > could be populated more easily and meaningfully at this point, > but I > >> would > >> > digress to elaborate on that and the whole process of site > requests > >> > more > >> > generally here. > >> > > >> > (Edits since the original comment was made: It appears judging > from > >> > https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:RecentChangesLinke > d/Category: > >> HI > >> > that 1) the subcategory "Artificial intelligence" has been > deleted and > >> > 2) > >> > the part in [brackets] above is being addressed slowly.) > >> > > >> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Justin Anthony Knapp > >> > &lt;justinkoavf(a)gmail.com > >> >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Via Phabricator (https://phabricator.wikimedia > .org/T168765#3376166): > >> >> > >> >> Is this really ready? I don't read Hindi but the main category > has 84 > >> >> subcategories and 25 are empty (many only have subcategories > which are > >> >> themselves empty, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > >> >> wiki/Category:इंटेलिजेंस) There are 578 pieces of content, many > of > >> >> which > >> >> are just one or two lines, such as https://beta.wikiversity.org/ > >> >> wiki/कंप्यूटर_प्रोग्रामिंग/IDE/विजुअल_बेसिक_.नेट/Online/Free or > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/कंप्यूटर_ग्राफिक्स/2013-20 > 14/पेज_फ़ुट > >> >> which is mostly someone's personal email address. Remove > categories > >> >> and > >> >> erroneously-categorized userpages and that becomes 490. This > includes > >> >> almost 100 pages which are part of some Linux code such as > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/लिनक्स/linux-0.01.tar/boot > /boot.s. > >> >> Remove *those* and it's 401 which includes purely cosmetic > templates > >> >> and > >> >> pages like > >> >> https://beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Portal:Engineering/box-footer. > >> >> The actual amount of content seems like something that one person > >> >> could > >> >> make over a long weekend. How is this supposed to be a live > project? > >> This > >> >> seems like a misstep. > >> >> > >> >> Creating a new project is a big responsibility and with 500 > pages in > >> five > >> >> and a half years? And most of them are either copy-pasted Linux > code > >> >> or > >> >> one > >> >> line long? That is not a thriving community. This is a recipe for > >> >> disaster. > >> >> > >> >> --JAK > >> >> -- > >> >> "[Icarus] glances up and is caught, wondrously tunneling into > that hot > >> >> eye. Who cares that he fell back to the sea?" > >> >> > >> >> Viva Western Sahara, viva West Papua > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Langcom mailing list > >> >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Langcom mailing list > >> Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Yours sincerely, > > Mahir Morshed > > University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > > B.S. Computer Engineering, May 2019 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom