Hoi,
Ok let us do this.
Thanks,
     Gerard

On 22 January 2016 at 10:03, Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:

As a followup, it appears like some people aren't waiting for us, which is mostly good.

There's something like looks like a MediaWiki installation with _probably_ something like a Wikipedia:
http://wiki.uhaan.com/

(It's mentioned on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Language_committee#.22Wikipedia_Mongolian_written_in_Mongolian_script.22 )

The text appears vertically to me in Chrome, but not in Firefox (I think it's fixable in Firefox, too, with correct CSS).

A lot of the interface is de-facto translated. Technically, I think that they actually modified MediaWiki's translation files for Chinese, but the text is Vertical Mongolian. This means that  The translation that they did should be integrated ASAP with upstream MediaWiki, and when that is done, their translatewiki.net statistics will quickly go high, probably making them pass the localization percentage test.

So it's _almost_ at a state where we could not only declare it eligible, but approve moving it out of Incubator to its own full domain.

In case it wasn't clear, I definitely support making it eligible. (But of course, incubator activity will have to be measured separately again.)


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2016-01-17 21:57 GMT+02:00 Amir E. Aharoni <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il>:
Milos, azb.wikipedia.org became live a few months ago, and it's pretty active ;)

The current code for the Cyrillic Mongolian Wikipedia is mn, not mo (mo is Moldovan, which is also a mess, but a different one).

To the main issue of the thread: I totally support the creation of a Wikipedia in the vertical Mongolian script. To the best of my knowledge, that's the script used in Inner Mongolia, _although_ I don't know how widely. I suspect that it's used in print, but that its web presence is very small and this Wikipedia may turn out to be one of the very first websites in it. Whoever does it, will probably have to break a lot of new ground technically, It's not a blocker, but it is a thing to be aware of. On of the first things to do would be to install the vertical MediaWiki support somewhere on a Wikimedia cluster; I think that the ASL wiki is on a separate site somewhere. But this, again, is a technicality, not a blocker.


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2016-01-17 18:49 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic <millosh@gmail.com>:

On Jan 17, 2016 16:20, "Michael Everson" <everson@evertype.com> wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2016, at 07:35, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are several projects waiting for "the nod" and, it is not happening.
>
> Which are these?

I know for one, but the context is quite different and I am pretty well introduced into situation.

It's about Azerbaijani written in Perso-Arabic script.

Young Azerbaijanis from Iran prefer Latin script. Literacy rate among older is very low. Azerbaijani Wikipedia allows articles in both scripts.

But, most importantly, we have Iranian Azerbaijani among highly involved Wikimedians (a steward, member of the Election committee etc.), Mardetanha. His close friends (thus, Iranians, as well) actually lead Azerbaijani Wikipedia. Thus, asking for a new project on such basis is much more about POV-pushing than allowing a group to have a Wikipedia in their native written language.

If something has changed and the core of Iranian Azerbaijani Wikimedians are in favor of creating Azerbaijani Wikipedia in Arabic script, I will support it.

In contrast to this, the admin of the present Mongolian Wikipedia strongly supports creation of "Inner Mongolian Wikipedia", as well as I didn't see any objection by any Mongolian Wikipedian. Obviously, because there are deeper cultural differences between them than between Azerbaijanis.


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