Hoi,
Reading an article does not make us an expert.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 27 April 2015 at 15:17, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Here's the article I found titled
"Update on Luri: How many
languages?" by Erik John Anonby: original link
<http://anonby.balafon.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/jra-172-171-197.pdf>,
you can see on the figure #2, said "Luri-Lurestani-khorramabadi" is the
main dialect and "Luri-Borujerdi" is the other dialect of Northern Luri
(lrc), and on the figure #3 shown west of current Iran's map, said
"Lurestani" is the main area of Northern Luri (lrc), lower on these
dialects is "Laki" on the figure #2 sands for Laki language (lki) , and
"Laki" area on the figure #3. On the figure #2 upper of Northern Luri (lrc)
dialects you can see the "Bakhtiari" (bqi) dialects and "Kohkiloyeh"
and
"Bouyerahmad" (Southern Luri [luz]) as well. On pages #186 to #197 you can
compares the example differences between these languages.
On 4/27/2015 2:14 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote:
As I mentioned also concerning Western Balochi, we need an outside
scholar / linguist / language expert for verification purposes. Any useful
bona-fide contacts?
On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
This
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
is the list of top articles was provided by Mogoeilor, even he named the
language of this wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page, and I didn't
see that.
On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
Yes.
On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
A longstanding requirement for any and all languages is that they have
to have an ISO-639-3 code and, that they are a language not a macro
language.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no such thing as they are a resources of world's languages,
> people are the resources and they only maintainer code, the unified codes
> that the world uses. Is there any confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet?
>
>
> On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
> Hoi,
> Ethnologue is the maintainer of the ISO-639-3. As such they are an
> authority.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You're right, I can't trust a self verification too, but what do you
>> expect me do to?, you can probably find a lot of trustable resources on the
>> Internet, I my self can't even trust ethnologue, because I found unuseful
>> information on it and I don't know where they come from, at least in
>> Wikipedia, we have resources, I didn't expect that from you.
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>
>> Hoi,
>> Wikipedia is in this not an authority. It has never been. Again, self
>> certification does not work for me.. We have been hurt by that before.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright then, that's Northern Luri, fair enough, I didn't have any
>>> knowledge that there is a southern dialect of it and people of Kohgiluyeh
>>> and Boyerahmadi, and Yasuj speak that, I only knew Lorestan, but per
>>> English wikipedia, they're dialects of Northern Luri which this wiki is
>>> written in.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> Check this out ...
http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
>>>
>>> It rather complicates things... By the way self certification is
>>> not a good idea.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 24 April 2015 at 22:45, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes. 100%, as I live Iran and I know some parts of this language,
>>>> it is definitely Luri. Mohammad Mogoei (User:Mogoeilor) the most active
>>>> user of this project is from Lorestan so definitely he speaks in this
>>>> language every day. In Iran it's called Luri, some people call it
>>>> Lurish
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
>>>> as the translation for English, per this
>>>> <http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc> the
>>>> language should be called Northern Luri, but none of it dialects are
called
>>>> Luri, so I call it Luri too. I have also submitted and now accepted a
>>>> ticket to CLDR to support this language. Other proposal of dialects of
this
>>>> language like Bakhtiari
>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
>>>> failed because of being a part of this language. Also they list of
article
>>>> I've just provided are the best of them as you can see there are no
Persian
>>>> words in them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> Do we have confirmation that it is indeed Luri ?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Gerard
>>>>
>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 20:42, Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I ask langcom members for approval of Luri Wikipedia,
>>>>>
>>>>> here are some top articles I could list, but there are more of them
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. استیو جابز
>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
>>>>> (Steve Jobs)
>>>>> 2. آلورت انیشتین
>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
>>>>> (Albert Einstein)
>>>>> 3. کلمبیا
>>>>> <http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7>
(
>>>>> Colombia)
>>>>> 4. شهید چمران
>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
>>>>> (Mostafa Chamran)
>>>>> 5. شایا عیلامی
>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
>>>>> (List of rulers of Elam)
>>>>> 6. کارلوس فوئنتس
>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
>>>>> (Carlos Fuentes)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Analysis
>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
>>>>> shows that this project has enough users and most of mediawiki
>>>>> message
>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
>>>>> been translated.
>>>>>
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