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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Montenegrin project (Steven White)
2. Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer of 2010
(Steven White)
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 15:35:23 +0000
From: Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Langcom] Montenegrin project
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Amir: Someone has written a response to your email to LangCom at the bottom of the discussion page on Meta.
Gerard: You don't get asked all that often here to spend a lot of time on an involved, complicated decision. If I thought I could easily digest it and feed it to you I would. But I don't. I'm not asking you for a lot of time; rather, the community you serve
needs you to spend the appropriate amount of time to see the latest evidence and decide what you think.
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Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 16:44:00 +0000
From: Steven White <Koala19890@hotmail.com>
To: "langcom@lists.wikimedia.org" <langcom@lists.wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Langcom] Four more Wikipedia requests dating to the summer
of 2010
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Here are four more requests dating back to 2010 that I'd like to dispose of:
Wikipedia Egyptian (
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Egyptian&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=%2BrODi9KQti4q37oqlUNtLv68UUvl5IHCpK%2FG%2Fp5Bfw4%3D&reserved=0):
Propose to reject. SIL marks as an ancient language; it's a predecessor of Coptic. Writing is hieroglyphics. There is no test project underway at Incubator, and the original proposer has not been active in over five years.
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Nigerian Pidgin (
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Nigerian_Pidgin&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=s0udxN8jheX7fbc37aZbExOwaoZ3pks2Alaeqr5AMRU%3D&reserved=0):
Marking as eligible. Ethnologue gives a figure (dating to 2005) of 30 million speakers; though not all are native, it's a widely used pidgin. Ethnologue says there isn't really a written standard, but as of 2016 there is a BBC service in the pidgin, so we
can probably steer people in that direction to some extent.
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Pipil (
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Pipil&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=UPsCIDgHLDNmWa5hvaHJ5q4j7vKJp%2BJkFIZK24s249k%3D&reserved=0):
Marking as eligible. Central American language classified by Glottolog as an Eastern Nahuatl language. Pipil is near extinction, and test project hasn't been all that active recently. But there's a decent amount of content there, and if it's valid content,
then this is probably a project that should be encouraged. No objections were noted on the RFL page.
Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Homshetsma (
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmeta.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRequests_for_new_languages%2FWikipedia_Homshetsma&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=3M5X3ioExyMGt7RFFfeMsxI3Fg%2F0JYynTVv3QGqnp6k%3D&reserved=0):
Propose to reject. See
https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fglottolog.org%2Fresource%2Flanguoid%2Fid%2Fhoms1234&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb132479a4ebe4740554308d55cd8cd68%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636517008594733253&sdata=hfLYK5yCqF4H6jLbT3jNo7hVKv%2FT7AdcVI0o5JKeuP0%3D&reserved=0:
Western Armenian dialect not fully intelligible with Armenian. It has no ISO code, and a small number of L1 speakers. The proposal dates to the (northern hemisphere) summer of 2010, and there has been no material discussion there since then. If it ever gets
a code, we could revisit; if Western Armenian gets a code, it could possibly be included there.
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