Re: [Langcom] Closure of Northern Luri Wikipedia

Two things: * I have asked a friend who studies in Tehran university (top university in humanitarian sciences like linguistics in Iran) to ask his friends to ask their professors to take a look and give their opinion. I will tell them to send their email here. I don't know what they are going to say, I don't even know who that person would be. I hope that's impartial enough. * Actually the attack post gave me a clue. It had a hashtag like "#LakIsLur" or "LakiIsLuri". And this actually helps clear the smoke and mirrors a bit. From the definition of Laki in Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laki_language>: Laki; (Kurdish: لەکی, لکي ,Lekî‎, Persian: لکی‎) is a vernacular that constitutes of two dialects; Pish-e Kuh Laki and Posht-e Kuh Laki.[6] Laki is considered a Kurdish dialect,[3][7][8][9][10][11][12] by most linguists,[4] while others argue that Laki is closely related to Kurdish but refrain from deciding its place among the Northwestern Iranian languages.[6] Laki has also been classified as a Lur dialect, but speakers of Luri claim that Laki is "difficult or impossible to understand".[7] Linguist Shahsavari argues that Laki is sometimes seen as 'a transitional dialect between Kurdish and Luri'.[13] I think that's why Kurdish people say they understand the wiki while Lur people say they don't. There is a wiki of Laki in incubator actually: https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lki The Iranian government considers Laki a separate language and not a dialect of Kurdish which Kurdish activists strongly criticized as a way to oppress Kurdish people in Iran by splitting them to subgroups (one of the reason for oppression of Kurdish people is that they are mostly Sunni but Lur and Lak people are mostly Shiite similar to the government's official religion which would explain why some Lak people are insistent to be identified as Lur and not Kurd). I'm sorry this is getting so complicated and convoluted to geopolitical issues and identity matters but that happens with every language, especially in the Middle east (and I don't claim I understand even half of it). At the end, this doesn't matter and I need to wait for the professor to take a look and shed some light on it. Thanks On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:11 PM Jon Harald Søby &lt;jhsoby(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: -- Amir (he/him) _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom