Hoi,
I care deeply about Wikipedia but I do not care for the wrong reasons. Ranks is not one that I care about. People being mad. sure they have their own fall guy already. It is not only technical we have a policy because we want to prevent such shenanigans not give it to such heavy handed thuggery.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 3 May 2015 at 23:38, Mjbmr <mjbmri@gmail.com> wrote:
Is there any discussion going on there? btw I don't think it's required, if we move az.wikipedia.org to somewhere else we're gonna deal with a lot loosing ranks and that's not acceptable in any way. Also if azwiki community decides they want to move their domain, there will be a lot of absent people mad at you later, be aware you're moving a encyclopedia, my opinion is let's just keep it for technical issues and start helping South one get a place.


On 5/4/2015 1:47 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
It is simple. We have a policy. As a consequence of that policy we did reject a southern Azeri Wikipedia. We did so because it was included in the az.wikipedia. Now one administrator decides to force an issue by deleting articles in the Arabic script. That is not acceptable particularly not because there was no consensus for him to do so.,

There is no reason at all to give this silly sod what he wants. There are multiple options
  • they can restore the articles an the az multi script situation
  • they can vote to have a separate Northern ie Latn script Wikipedia

When they have made their choice our policy does deny them the az,wikipedia because effectively it is a new one., Az is a macro language code so it is not available.

Thanks,

     GerardM


On 3 May 2015 at 19:41, Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com> wrote:
On 3 May 2015, at 07:14, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have had some more thoughts on this..
>
> My proposal is to have the az.wikipedia community decide what it wants...
>
> Do they want a Latin only Wikipedia or not.  When

If.

> they do, there Wikipedia will be renamed to Northern Azerbaijani and they will lose the az code.

No! That’s your agenda. Leave it as it is, take the Arabic out and put it into a new Wiki. That seems to be what the users want. They haven’t said “We want to relabel the languages”. They’ve said they don’t want to mix script content.

> When

If.

> they want to keep Arabic after all, it is no longer an option for them to deny content in a legitimate script for their language.
>
> When

If.

> we agree that this makes sense in the light of our policy, we will inform the board and give the board two weeks to express their approval.
>
> We will then put it to the az.wp community and it is for them to come to a decision they will have to live with. There will not be any other options considered.

The options are”

1) Do nothing. Keep scripts mixed.

2) Keep az.wikipedia.org for Latin. This is a national orthography. Add azb.wikipedia.org or az-arab.wikipedia.org for the Arabic-script version, which is used in Iran.

3) As 2) but deprecate az.wikipedia.org for Latin and make them use asj.wikipedia.org. This is a bad idea.

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/


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