I just finished reading the research, it's quite informative. The part about activity often declining after a project gets published, along with the challenges new projects face, really stood out to me. As a community, how can we address these issues and work toward preventing contributor burnout? What practical solutions can we implement?

From personal observation, I've noticed that during the Incubator phase, it's extremely difficult to maintain an active community over a period of six months—especially when editors don't see any clear signs of success or progress in return for their time-consuming contributions. This lack of visible reward or encouragement can lead to discouragement and, eventually, loss of motivation among contributors.

I think it would be helpful to have some form of structured progress tracking; like small, achievable goals or a visual progress bar that clearly shows how close the project is to becoming a standalone site. Something like that could give contributors a stronger sense that their work is moving the project forward. I understand this may not be a complete solution, and I haven't thought through all the details. 

Ultimately, the community is the backbone of any project. We need to find ways to keep contributors motivated, whether through recognition, appreciation, or tools that show them their work is truly making a difference.  

On Wed, 7 May 2025 at 02:45, Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Thanks Jon for the link to the Phabricator task! If Language Committee members are interested in having a separate meeting about this, I would be happy to propose a date and time for us to chat about the outcomes.

Cheers,

Srishti

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Tue, May 6, 2025 at 3:57 AM Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby@gmail.com> wrote:

See https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362368#10710195

søn. 4. mai 2025 kl. 16:22 skrev MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:

Is it planned to share results from the experiment in any other way?

Am Di., 29. Apr. 2025 um 00:46 Uhr schrieb Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org>:

Hi everyone,

It's been a while since we posted here - thanks for all your support with the onboarding experiment! I wanted to share that we recently announced our next Language Community Meeting, which will take place on May 30th at 15:00 UTC!

Some of you might be interested in this particular edition, as we plan to cover results from the onboarding experiment and hear experiences from a Nigerian contributor who contributes to the Obolo wiki, which was part of this experiment. If you are interested in joining the meeting, you can sign up on the wiki page: <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Language_and_Product_Localization/Community_meetings#30_May_2025>

We look forward to your ideas and participation at the Language Community Meeting, see you there!

Cheers,
Srishti

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 2:05 PM Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org> wrote:

This is great news! Thank you so much MF-Warburg and Language Committee for your support in getting the five wikis approved. 

Cheers,

Srishti

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 12:08 PM Tochi Precious <tochiprecious2@gmail.com> wrote:

That's great to hear.

On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 6:04 PM MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com> wrote:

Noting here that 5 projects are now ready to be created.

Am Do., 19. Sept. 2024 um 14:29 Uhr schrieb MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:

For the public record: Tai Nüa verified.

Am Do., 19. Sept. 2024 um 14:24 Uhr schrieb MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com>:

No objections.

Am Di., 17. Sept. 2024 um 23:36 Uhr schrieb Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org>:

It appears that all the other languages in the same cluster as Krio (Okinawan, Pipil, Mapudungun, and Tarifit) may have the same issue. Either they are too small in terms of the number of speakers or the editors have not been active recently. Therefore, we are now proposing a language from a different cluster: Arakanese (see screenshot). What are your thoughts on this language as a suitable candidate for the experiment?

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 2:28 PM Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org> wrote:

Thanks! I see that we have received positive responses from three more language communities:

Tdd <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/tdd>
Rsk <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/rsk>
Ann <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/ann>

I have not yet received any response from the Kri language, and we are past the deadline. I pinged the active editors in other venues as well, but my impression is that the editors have not been active recently. I will talk to our team to see if we can propose other alternative suggestions.

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Sun, Sep 15, 2024 at 10:13 AM MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com> wrote:

Yes, the former. Verification [of the content by a linguist] would be the more complete sentence.

We can create the Phabricator requests to create nrwiki and rskwiki as soon as we have the necessary settings. (<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_South_Ndebele>, <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Pannonian_Rusyn_2>)

Am Fr., 13. Sept. 2024 um 22:15 Uhr schrieb Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org>:

Thank you! Is it because the Language Committee found a linguist for Pannonian Rusyn, or did the community express interest to the Language Committee in participating in the experiment? I am trying to understand the sequence.

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 2:12 AM MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com> wrote:

Thank you.

Verification for Pannonian Rusyn has just been forwarded to the private list.

Am Do., 12. Sept. 2024 um 22:08 Uhr schrieb Srishti Sethi <ssethi@wikimedia.org>:

I just posted on the user talk pages. It took us some time to generate the editor list (Phab:T374552). We considered the top 5 editors for each wiki and then filtered out those with missing user pages on Incubator. In total, we posted on the talk pages of 16 editors and emailed the ones with the feature enabled.

Additionally, I see that we have just received a positive response from Wp/nr.

Srishti Sethi Senior Developer Advocate Wikimedia Foundation

On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 6:40 AM MF-Warburg <mfwarburg@googlemail.com> wrote:

[re-sending without the older messages, I keep having to approve my own mails to the mailing list because they are too large]

Thanks for posting the messages. I haven't seen the message to active editors yet but I assume they are there.

Verification for Southern Ndebele has just been forwarded to the private list.

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