Same here. +1 J

Oliver

 

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From: Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com]
Sent: 23 October 2013 23:37
To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee
Subject: Re: [Langcom] eligibility of vmf

 

Hoi,

Happy with Antony's analysis.

Thanks,

     Gerard

 

On 23 October 2013 21:50, Antony Green <toniogreen@web.de> wrote:

Well, it couldn't coexist on de-wp, because dialect wouldn't be accepted there, and it couldn't coexist on bar-wp, because Main Franconian is simply too different from Bavarian. So I'd say it does meet the uniqueness requirement.

As for what "vmf" refers to, the older edition of Ethnologue said it was spoken west of Frankfurt and in Mainz, which is untrue of Main Franconian, but the new edition has been corrected and it now says "east of Mainz and Frankfurt", which does match up with the usual understanding of Main Franconian.

So, since the issue of what the code is supposed to refer to has apparently been cleared up, and since Main Franconian is a language with native speakers, I see no reason for it not to be eligible.

Best,
Antony

 

On 22.10.2013 14:35, MF-Warburg wrote:

Is this eligible? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_East_Franconian_German

My personal opinion is No, but that's just because I hate all German dialects except my own.
Jokes aside, let's consider whether there is a valid ISO code, and whether the language is "sufficiently unique that it could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes regional dialects and different written forms of the same language." (per Language proposal policy).

There is a valid ISO 639-3 code, vmf, but there seems to be some confusion as to what this code comprehends (see the Request on Meta).

Cf. also on Incubator the category for the different dialects in which they write articles there: <https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wp/vmf/Adigl_nach_Dial%C3%A4gd>

 

I don't think there could be a more general wiki, however the exact definition of which dialects this wiki (vmf) should cover might be controversial.

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