As I mentioned also concerning
Western Balochi, we
need an outside scholar / linguist / language expert
for verification purposes. Any useful bona-fide
contacts?
On 25-Apr-15 6:41 PM, Mjbmr wrote:
This
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/lrc/%D9%86%D9%88%D9%85%DA%AF%D9%87_%DA%AF%D9%88%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1>
is the list of top articles was provided by
Mogoeilor, even he named the language of this
wikipedia, Northern Luri on their main page, and I
didn't see that.
On 4/25/2015 11:27 AM, Mjbmr wrote:
> Yes.
>
> On 4/25/2015 11:22 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>> Hoi,
>> A longstanding requirement for any and all
>> languages is that they have to have an ISO-639-3
>> code and, that they are a language not a macro
>> language.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 25 April 2015 at 08:16, Mjbmr
>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> There is no such thing as they are a
>> resources of world's languages, people are
>> the resources and they only maintainer code,
>> the unified codes that the world uses. Is
>> there any confirmation of Luri Wikipedia yet?
>>
>>
>> On 4/25/2015 10:31 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>> Hoi,
>>> Ethnologue is the maintainer of the
>>> ISO-639-3. As such they are an authority.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 25 April 2015 at 06:34, Mjbmr
>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right, I can't trust a self
>>> verification too, but what do you expect
>>> me do to?, you can probably find a lot
>>> of trustable resources on the Internet,
>>> I my self can't even trust ethnologue,
>>> because I found unuseful information on
>>> it and I don't know where they come
>>> from, at least in Wikipedia, we have
>>> resources, I didn't expect that from you.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/2015 8:46 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>>>> Hoi,
>>>> Wikipedia is in this not an authority.
>>>> It has never been. Again, self
>>>> certification does not work for me.. We
>>>> have been hurt by that before.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> GerardM
>>>>
>>>> On 25 April 2015 at 00:03, Mjbmr
>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Alright then, that's Northern Luri,
>>>> fair enough, I didn't have any
>>>> knowledge that there is a southern
>>>> dialect of it and people of
>>>> Kohgiluyeh and Boyerahmadi, and
>>>> Yasuj speak that, I only knew
>>>> Lorestan, but per English
>>>> wikipedia, they're dialects of
>>>> Northern Luri which this wiki is
>>>> written in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/25/2015 2:12 AM, Gerard
>>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>> Check this out ...
>>>>>
http://www.ethnologue.com/subgroups/luri-0
>>>>>
>>>>> It rather complicates things... By
>>>>> the way self certification is not
>>>>> a good idea.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> GerardM
>>>>>
>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 22:45, Mjbmr
>>>>> <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. 100%, as I live Iran and
>>>>> I know some parts of this
>>>>> language, it is definitely
>>>>> Luri. Mohammad Mogoei
>>>>> (User:Mogoeilor) the most
>>>>> active user of this project is
>>>>> from Lorestan so definitely he
>>>>> speaks in this language every
>>>>> day. In Iran it's called Luri,
>>>>> some people call it Lurish
>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Lurish>
>>>>> as the translation for
>>>>> English, per this
>>>>>
<http://www-01.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=lrc>
>>>>> the language should be called
>>>>> Northern Luri, but none of it
>>>>> dialects are called Luri, so I
>>>>> call it Luri too. I have also
>>>>> submitted and now accepted a
>>>>> ticket to CLDR to support this
>>>>> language. Other proposal of
>>>>> dialects of this language like
>>>>> Bakhtiari
>>>>>
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Bakhtiari>
>>>>> failed because of being a part
>>>>> of this language. Also they
>>>>> list of article I've just
>>>>> provided are the best of them
>>>>> as you can see there are no
>>>>> Persian words in them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 4/25/2015 12:37 AM, Gerard
>>>>> Meijssen wrote:
>>>>>> Hoi,
>>>>>> Do we have confirmation that
>>>>>> it is indeed Luri ?
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Gerard
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 24 April 2015 at 20:42,
>>>>>> Mjbmr <mjbmri(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>
<mailto:mjbmri@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ask langcom members for
>>>>>> approval of Luri Wikipedia,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here are some top
>>>>>> articles I could list,
>>>>>> but there are more of them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. استیو جابز
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%88_%D8%AC%D8%A7%D8%A8%D8%B2>
>>>>>> (Steve Jobs)
>>>>>> 2. آلورت انیشتین
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%A2%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AA_%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B4%D8%AA%DB%8C%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Albert Einstein)
>>>>>> 3. کلمبیا
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D9%84%D9%85%D8%A8%DB%8C%D8%A7>
>>>>>> (Colombia)
>>>>>> 4. شهید چمران
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%AF_%DA%86%D9%85%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86>
>>>>>> (Mostafa Chamran)
>>>>>> 5. شایا عیلامی
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%D8%B4%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%A7_%D8%B9%DB%8C%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C>
>>>>>> (List of rulers of Elam)
>>>>>> 6. کارلوس فوئنتس
>>>>>>
<http:///wiki/Wp/lrc/%DA%A9%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%84%D9%88%D8%B3_%D9%81%D9%88%D8%A6%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B3>
>>>>>> (Carlos Fuentes)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Analysis
>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/lrc&wiki=incubatorwiki#list_editors>
>>>>>> shows that this project
>>>>>> has enough users and most
>>>>>> of mediawiki message
>>>>>>
<https://tools.wmflabs.org/robin/?tool=codelookup&code=lrc>has
>>>>>> been translated.
>>>>>>
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