I have checked multiple pages and they are definitely not Urdu and look
Saraiki to me. Saraiki is similar to Punjabi so I can understand it and
confirm that this looks legitimate to me.
P.S. Western Punjabi and Saraiki are pretty similar and my personal view is
that this should be accommodated on one Wikipedia but the
sociology-political situation in Pakistan calls for a separate Wikipedia
for Saraiki.
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Program Officer
GLAM and Underrepresented Knowledge
Wikimedia Foundation
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 20:11, Steven White <koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
I have put a query to the community at
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wp/skr/%D9%BE%DB%81%D9%84%D8%A7_%….
I will post links at Incubator's Community Portal and at the Meta request
page.
Steven
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White <koala19890(a)hotmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:55 AM
*To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in
Saraiki
Gerard, I'm sympathetic to that position. But I don't see any provision
for a ban in the policy, and LangCom doesn't own Incubator. So I don't
quite know how or where to initiate a discussion to propose a ban. I can,
however, indefinitely block as an Incubator administrator, as deliberately
creating content to pass it off as the wrong language is, if nothing else,
a form of vandalism or disruptive editing.
In the meantime, I intend to go over to that test project and ask them
what is going on. Our general rules require that.
Steven
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Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:03 AM
*To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Langcom] Wikipedia in
Saraiki
Hoi,
No we have an indefinite ban on incubator for the people posing as if they
speak a language they do not speak.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Mon, 7 Oct 2019 at 22:25, Steven White <koala19890(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
This really upsets me. But if the content is in Urdu, then (a) we ask
what's going on, (b) we don't approve, and (c) in all likelihood, we
propose an indef block on Incubator, given that many of the same characters
were involved in a problem around the Khowar project a couple of years back.
Steven
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Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com>
*Sent:* Monday, October 7, 2019 5:33 AM
*To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee <langcom(a)lists.wikimedia.org
*Subject:* [Langcom] Wikipedia in Saraiki
Hi all!
I wanted to let you know that I'm in touch with an expert with regards to
verifying Wikipedia in Saraiki
<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fincubator.wikimedia.org%2Fwiki%2FWp%2Fskr&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cc202ec9d3d3443df77f608d74bf78912%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637061398835955907&sdata=6VoBoJ7yjRSReIo%2BTJUzDjdthhaz6XBZSr9tbeS7pC4%3D&reserved=0>
(skr). It was previously mentioned by Seven in an email titled "Final
approval for four projects" from August 16.
The expert checked one page and said it is in Urdu and not Saraiki
(although it is *about* Saraiki topics). He said he will get back to me
to check more pages in a week or two.
However, after he said that, I've checked several pages with Google
Translate from Urdu to English, and they all produce very legible content
(for Google Translate). That makes me suspicious that maybe all the content
is in fact in Urdu – if it was in fact in a smaller language, I would
expect a certain amount of words that Google Translate just doesn't
understand.
So the question is, what do we do if it turns out that most/all content is
in Urdu?
--
mvh
Jon Harald Søby
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