I propose to reject
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
ki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Deletion_of_Marshallese_Wi
kipedia_and_Wiktionary>, <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
ki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Deletion_of_Afar_Wikipedia
,_Wikibooks_and_Wiktionary>, <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi
ki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Deletion_of_Hiri_Motu_Wikipedia> and <
cts/Deletion_of_Venda_Wikipedia_2>. The only reason given for deleting
is that these projects are unlikely to be reopened. Not much value in doing
that was shown, and per
.
org/T168764#3378717 and the page linked from there it seems that such a
deletion would only cause unnecessary technical problems, especially if by
chance one of them should be reopened.
2017-07-02 0:32 GMT+02:00 Robin Pepermans <robinp.1273(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi all,
I have hereby closed the more than four years old BetaWikiversity
merging proposal on procedural grounds. As I wrote there <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_proje
cts/Move_Beta_Wikiversity_to_Incubator> a new one can be opened that
is a proper proposal and more well-prepared, since the proposal itself
remains valid and has wide support.
Regards,
Robin
2017-07-01 8:24 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:
> Hoi,
> If the WMF is of the opinion that the Language committee is relevant
> separate from its role as the gatekeeper for new languages and projects, it
> would help when the name changes necessary to comply fully with standards
> is honoured. The language committee is unanimous in its longstanding wish
> for this to happen.
>
> Another aspect of the deletion etc of projects is that the feasibility
> of merging has never been technically assessed as far as I am aware, There
> is a chance for templates existing in projects to interfere with existing
> stuff in the Incubator. It is also not clear what happens to the interwiki
> links. A long held wish is that Incubator is supported for its existing
> languages in Wikidata. My personal argument is that the links to all kinds
> of other statements represent links and information that could be in the
> stub for the article they are writing.
>
> Many of the arguments about the deletion of projects like Moldovan
> have a long history. I do understand why the Language committee could play
> a role because it has always been fairly separate from what community
> members have for an opinion. When other members of the LC chime in, we may
> do something.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> On 1 July 2017 at 05:13, Samuel Klein <meta.sj(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 30, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
>> gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hoi,
>>> To be honest, it is not the task of the language committee to kill
>>> of projects. At best we may "recommend". At that we strongly urge
the
>>> Wikimedia Foundation to rename a few projects that are incorrectly named.
>>> This does not happen as it does not have the needed priority.
>>>
>>
>> From the perspective of the WMF and the community, at present, a
>> LangCom recommendation is highly relevant, and where one exists it is AFAIK
>> followed.
>>
>> Moreover, there is no other forum for proposing and discussing such
>> closures.
>>
>> I too encourage the committee to strongly urge closure+migration of
>> Beta Wikiversity, and deletion+archival-migration? of Moldovan WP/Wikt.
>>
>> If LangCom does not *wish* to process closure requests, it's
>> absolutely up to you to remove that from the LangCom charter and push back
>> to the community at large. But unless some other group takes up the role,
>> that limits the committee's ability to correct earlier decisions that
>> didn't work out.
>>
>> SJ
>>
>>
>> Also, there are always people who one way or another want the
>>> language committee to do whatever. That is fine but it does not mean that
>>> the language committee can do much more than its remit.
>>> Thanks,
>>> GerardM
>>>
>>> On 30 June 2017 at 18:38, Steven White <Koala19890(a)hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The community is getting impatient that LangCom is leaving so many
>>>> items in limbo, especially the Beta Wikiversity proposal. (See
>>>>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Closing_projects_policy
>>>> #This_is_not_working.) That proposal passed its fourth
>>>> anniversary in the last week! In April, you discussed this question, and
>>>> seemed on the verge of approving the closure—but then the discussion was
>>>> stopped, and no action was taken.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There are currently four proposals that have been open for two
>>>> years or longer, and another two that have been open for over a year. I
>>>> strongly urge you to take action at least on those, lest the community
step
>>>> in and make its own decisions. As a reminder these are:
>>>>
>>>> - Move Beta Wikiversity to Incubator
>>>> - Deletion of Moldovan WIkipedia and Wiktionary (two
>>>> separate proposals) (already closed and locked)
>>>> - Deletion of Marshallese projects (already closed and locked)
>>>> - Closure of Limburgish and Bosnian Wikibooks (two proposals)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd venture to say that there is no groundswell insisting on the
>>>> Marshallese, Limburgish or Bosnian proposals, and you could easily close
>>>> those proposals as "not done" with little fanfare. The others I
cannot
>>>> really comment on.
>>>>
>>>> Steven White (StevenJ81)
>>>>
>>>>
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