Gerard, why do we need to wait? Because we have so much tasks to do right
now and it's unreasonable to put more burden on us?
On Nov 23, 2016 11:08, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
In my opinion we should leave BCP 47 for what it is. There is no point in
including
it at this time. It will become relevant once Wiktionary data is
included in Wikidata.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 23 November 2016 at 09:55, MF-Warburg <mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Ok. So is there some rule of thumb we could formulate about whether or
not a
specific BCP 47 should be allowed for Wikidata?
>
> 2016-11-23 6:26 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>
>> Hoi,
>> Yes. But the point is that our position has always been that for a
language
we accept ISO-639-3 for Wikidata without a localisation effort.
For BCP 47 we have not done so and there is not the same blanket need to
accept them. When a BCP 47 needs a different date format, it is a matter of
localisation to make that happen. It is not what this do in Wikidata.
>> Thanks,
>> GerardM
>>
>> On 23 November 2016 at 01:44, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Nov 23, 2016 00:47, "MF-Warburg"
<mfwarburg(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2016-11-22 15:33 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>om>:
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't think it's true at the moment, but imagine the next
integration:
>>> >>
>>> >> * A person is born on year/January/date. That's the data
Wikipedia
>>> >> should take from Wikidata.
>>> >> * A user says "I am a German from Germany" and has that
as
>>> >> localization, instead of default Austrian version.
>>> >> * What's the method of telling Wikidata to give German German
January
>>> >> instead of Austrian German
January inside of the infobox?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Well, as dates in Wikidata are not stored as "5. Jänner 1980"
in the
first place, that seems no problem. The infobox' code will simply
translate
1980-01-05 differently, depending on the users' language settings. Or am I
mistaken?
>>>
>>> That was just an example, not the best one. The point is that Wikidata
operates with the open set of words and that we could easily come into the
position to force a user to read even something completely strangr to him
or her.
>>>
>>> For example, the term Art Noveau/Secession and similar could easily
become a category and a difference between the two varieties. And by
reading one variety, a user could come into position not to understand that.
>>>
>>> I could find a lot of such potential pairs between Serbian and
Croatian, which are distant on similar level as Spanish varieties, so it's
not hard to me to imagine that keeping strict ISO 639-3 codes instead of
BCP 47 could make confusion.
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