Hello Jon and thank you for the details,
Also related to the same subject, I have noticed that two other projects
you shared (dga, kus) have exactly the same points. They have also many
articles that are about the same people, and use the same structure. I do
not know if the three of them were done together or in some collaboration,
but it can be worth to check with language experts to make sure that every
version is really independent from the other and not that one language is
used in all the three.
Otherwise, I agree with your observations related to requirements between
established and new wikis, but we need still to ensure that the future
admins know at least the basics of references, neutrality, notability and
important rules. I assume that there is no onboarding process, but it can
be something worth investigating to ensure and good and sustainable wiki.
Best regards,
Anass
في أربعاء، 14 يونيو، 2023 في 17:50، كتب Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com>om>:
ons. 14. juni 2023 kl. 17:29 skrev Anass Sedrati <sedranas(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hello Jon and thank you for the proposal,
I took a look at the Mossi Wikipedia, and indeed it seems that there is a
good activity there, ans also the quality of many existing articles is
really good. However, there are some points that I think need to be taken
into consideration before moving forward:
1- many articles (even the bigger ones) do not have a single reference,
and come of them are messy with just big chunks of text or very short
(example: Busa, Guure). If these editors will be the future administrators,
I think that they really need to be trained before. What do you think?
This is normal for new and emerging Wikipedia editions, and I am very
skeptical of judging a new Wikipedia by the standards of well-established
Wikipedias that have existed for decades. Of course, it is good to
encourage best practices from the beginning, but I feel this is something
each community must decide for themselves, if that makes sense.
2- the home page is fully written in English. This probably needs to be
fixed before approval?
Ideally, yes, but I don't consider that a blocker for approval. Their
current main page is just a "bare-bones" entry for contributors, and I
expect they will replace it with a more proper main page once it is created.
3- the infoboxes bring information from Wikidata, but this is problematic
because (a) they are very big with not always relevant information, and (b)
none of the items is translated and all of them are in English. This is
also something the editors need probably to look into?
This edition (and many others) use a standardized infobox template called
"Databox" which fetches things from Wikidata automatically. If there are
labels in Mossi for the items mentioned in the infoboxes, the Mossi label
will be used (well, at least in the created wiki – I haven't checked
whether that's implemented for Incubator test wikis, but I think it is).
(Side note: I have been thinking of making a gadget for the Norwegian
Bokmål Wikipedia that makes it easy to add Norwegian labels directly from
the infobox without having to visit Wikipedia. Such a gadget could also be
useful for the Incubator.)
The Databox template can indeed be a bit big and unwieldy at times, but I
think it's still better than nothing. It is also meant to be easy to set up
and use without having knowledge about the Lua code that is necessary to
make more sophisticated Wikidata templates.
I hope that this feedback is helpful, but so far, well done for the Mossi
community!
Best regards,
Anass
في ثلاثاء، 13 يونيو، 2023 في 22:41، كتب Jon Harald Søby <jhsoby(a)gmail.com
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Hi all,
I would like to propose the approval of the Mooré/Mossi Wikipedia
(Wp/mos) [1]. The activity has been stable for several months [2], and the
translation of the most important messages is done [3].
We will, however, need verification. I'm sure Sadik can help find
someone to verify it.
[1]
https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/mos
[2]
https://tools.wmflabs.org/meta/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/mos…
[3]
https://codelookup.toolforge.org/mos
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